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</style><div class="messages"><div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-01 09:27</div><div class="msg">has joined #core-developers</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2017-12-01 09:29</div><div class="msg">has joined #core-developers</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/8f5d17c2210ba9813f6612330fc0fc66.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0014-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">janherich</div><div class="time">2017-12-01 09:29</div><div class="msg">has joined #core-developers</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-17/348134203537_1bc2a6f28471cf6ec828_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hutch</div><div class="time">2017-12-01 09:30</div><div class="msg">has joined #core-developers</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-01 09:30</div><div class="msg">@jeluard set the channel topic: <a href="https://github.com/status-im/ideas/issues/4">https://github.com/status-im/ideas/issues/4</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-01 09:30</div><div class="msg">Hi! This channel is dedicated to improving the 3rd party developers experience (<a href="https://github.com/status-im/ideas/issues/4">https://github.com/status-im/ideas/issues/4</a>)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-01 09:31</div><div class="msg">I don't plan work on this to start before one week or two but we can have some discussion starting already!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-01 09:34</div><div class="msg">Ideally what we should aim for is to have external projects build integration with status on their own.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-01 09:35</div><div class="msg">How do we achieve that is what I'd like to discuss here!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2017-12-01 09:40</div><div class="msg">Awesome, I'm in :+1: @anna should be in here too</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-03-08/150717543185_46c3b78ed6fd88d4b338_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">anna</div><div class="time">2017-12-01 09:40</div><div class="msg">has joined #core-developers</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-01 10:12</div><div class="msg">The kind of things I wish would happen: <a href="https://medium.com/@DETHER/dether-development-transparency-part-2-723222a1c222">https://medium.com/@DETHER/dether-development-transparency-part-2-723222a1c222</a> (scroll down)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2017-12-01 10:23</div><div class="msg">yeah, we need to make sure guys like that are approaching us first!! High high prio in my book :wink: Happy to be a reviewer/evaluator here</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-01 14:21</div><div class="msg">@janherich Here is the feedback we got during the hackathon: <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/wiki/Hackathon-Feedback">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/wiki/Hackathon-Feedback</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-01 14:22</div><div class="msg">And hackathon submissions: <a href="https://github.com/status-im/hackathon/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aclosed">https://github.com/status-im/hackathon/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aclosed</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-01 15:53</div><div class="msg">@cryptowanderer Based on your personal experience and feedback from users, could you make some list of high level features we must have? (even if we already have them)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2017-12-02 15:00</div><div class="msg">ok, am working this weekend, but will add it to the list @jeluard. The biggest one we don't have right now is the ability to scan a QR from within the jail. Not sure if it's possible, but if you guys make it so, I will love you forever :wink:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2017-12-04 10:10</div><div class="msg">@jeluard Roman's feedback above is essentially the list of features I put together last night (without looking over it that we need). I would say that we could organise it in descending order of importance though:
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1) Improve response format (i.e. just get it working for now)
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2) Access contact list of user you are friends with
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3) Allow a bot to scan a QR code to, for instance, sign a tx. A use case for this would be: I want to hand out community tokens at meetups, but you need to attend in person to receive one. The easiest way I imagine this happening is to have a contract that creates a random piece of data for each meetup which people can scan and sign at the meetup itself in order to prove they were there, and then the contract can distribute tokens to whomever signed the random data and send them a token without relying on the meetup organiser etc.
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4) Allow bots and DApps to communicate (share localStorage?)
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5) Improve devtools add/update/watch - we did some work on getting live reloading and debugging going (@andrey is prob best to ask about this, or @alwx as they were the ones working on it most at the time)
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6) Add new APIs (XHR, promise)
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7) Allow bots to send messages anytime and allow whisper to automatically send messages on events
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8) Allow to send and receive images (sharing files in general will likely have to wait for light-client swarm correct?)
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-04 10:18</div><div class="msg">@cryptowanderer Thanks! Can't see Roman's feedback?
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One thing I'd like to do for the whole `extensibility` idea is to have a high-level vision of what 3rd devs might want to do. Then drill down to specific features.
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It's great to have specific needs as we want to address all of those. I'd like to have those framed as part of higher level stories.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-04 10:19</div><div class="msg">Also we should feel free to consider what we have right now can be broken and reshaped if needed.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2017-12-04 10:19</div><div class="msg">I meant this link @jeluard</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-04 10:20</div><div class="msg">:+1:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2017-12-04 10:20</div><div class="msg">ok cool, will think about that too and see if I can get it down clearly. Maybe we can put it out the community as well. Will ask some folks in Riot as well now now</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-04 10:20</div><div class="msg">Sure sounds good!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-04 10:24</div><div class="msg">One example: cryptokitties are crazy now, surely devs would want to create some sort of integration with status.
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How do we enable that?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-04 10:25</div><div class="msg">See <a href="https://twitter.com/fredwilson/status/936993509336285186">https://twitter.com/fredwilson/status/936993509336285186</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2017-12-04 10:26</div><div class="msg">Well, currently the biggest blocker there and for most other interesting dapps is that they're on the main network... But yeah, I get the picture you're trying to paint here :+1:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-04 10:28</div><div class="msg">Hopefully for the march milestone we will have mainnet support and a great API :smile:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2017-12-04 10:31</div><div class="msg">that is definitely the dream dude :wink: I think from a high-level overview point of view, one of the most important things will be trying to understand safe ways for bots to do anything outside the jail - this will help enormously with everything from sharing files (and maybe paying micro-transactions for that in a chat) to being able to scan a QR code from within a bot chat to sign a tx or perform some other on-chain action/attestation. As a developer, I understand the need for bots to be limited in the scope of their permissions/possible actions, but I want a little more flexibility there in terms of allowing specific taks mostly related to necessarily on-chain interactions.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-04 10:37</div><div class="msg">Right there is a balance between control and features exposed. Now you never know how something can be abused so jails are nice. We want better jails!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-04 10:39</div><div class="msg">Ah I missed that comment: <a href="https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong/status/937130596937056257">https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong/status/937130596937056257</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-17/348134203537_1bc2a6f28471cf6ec828_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hutch</div><div class="time">2017-12-04 15:53</div><div class="msg">@jeluard im in touch with the cryptokitties lead Benny; and will update when their dev team can talk about easier integration into status. I'd like to get their feedback on what they would see as smooth integration. They are already working with toshi because they were at ethwaterloo with them, i?d like to make sure we make their experience integrating into status smooth as well.
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We?ve already got main-net flag open on nightly APK?s so we should work on getting those DApps who will be ?wanted? in march to work tested and feedback from DApp devs who are trying to build on status on what could be made smoother from their perspective.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-04 16:02</div><div class="msg">@hutch Great! Definitively interested in hearing the kind of integration they are thinking of and giving them a hand implementing it.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-17/348134203537_1bc2a6f28471cf6ec828_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hutch</div><div class="time">2017-12-04 16:03</div><div class="msg">It seems like his biggest concern was ease of onboarding onto ETH into a platform as a newcomer.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-17/348134203537_1bc2a6f28471cf6ec828_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hutch</div><div class="time">2017-12-04 16:04</div><div class="msg">how to obtain etc.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-04 16:06</div><div class="msg">How to obtain eth? Yes that's a broader issue we will have to tackle at some point.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-29 11:52</div><div class="msg">@cryptowanderer So what is it you need exactly regarding QR code scanning?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2017-12-29 11:56</div><div class="msg">@jeluard if you `@browse` to <a href="https://andytudhope.github.io/StatusSeekers/">https://andytudhope.github.io/StatusSeekers/</a> through the console you will see a very simple DApp I have built as a PoC for an art installation. At the moment, it will just randomly return you one of 12 words required to unlock a new Status account and claim a preloaded reward.
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However, for the actual project, when you click that button, I want it to ask for permission to access your camera and then scan a QR code pasted onto the actual installation and only then return the keyword.
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So, I just need to figure out how to do that from a DApp. Maybe it is already possible and it is just the bot jail that was giving others issues? Still trying to find time to research this properly.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-29 11:58</div><div class="msg">What is the content of this QR code? An ethereum request?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2017-12-29 11:59</div><div class="msg">Doesn't have to be. Can be as simple as a number between 0 and 11 that can be passed in as the `id` parameter here: <a href="https://github.com/andytudhope/StatusSeekers/blob/master/src/App.js#L57">https://github.com/andytudhope/StatusSeekers/blob/master/src/App.js#L57</a>
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But yeah, prob much better if it is the actual `call()` to the contract. KISS though, right :wink:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2017-12-29 12:00</div><div class="msg">please forgive my noob react skills :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-29 12:01</div><div class="msg">Did you try to use one of the javascript QR code scanner?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-29 12:01</div><div class="msg">I am not sure this is the kind of API we want to expose to DApps developers.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-29 12:01</div><div class="msg">For bots we might consider allowing to hook in some of our screens.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2017-12-29 12:02</div><div class="msg">no, I have not yet, but will give it a go this afternoon/evening and let you know how it goes.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-29 12:06</div><div class="msg">It should work unless some weird issues with permission appears? But then we would fix those</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2017-12-29 12:16</div><div class="msg">ok cool, goona go learn some more :sweat_smile:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2017-12-30 09:18</div><div class="msg">@jeluard if you navigate here <a href="https://schmich.github.io/instascan/">https://schmich.github.io/instascan/</a> you will see that trying to access a camera through a DApp so that you can scan a QR doesn't work. Been trying a bunch of different ways to get this to work, but doesn't seem like any of them do the trick...</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2017-12-30 09:20</div><div class="msg">same story here: <a href="https://webqr.com/">https://webqr.com/</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-30 09:37</div><div class="msg">Indeed this is something we have to fix</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2017-12-30 10:59</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/2854">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/2854</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2017-12-30 11:11</div><div class="msg">ok people, I am going to start creating issues for all the API stuff because I really really want to see it solved before January 22nd 2018. Here are two important ones:
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<a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/2854">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/2854</a>
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<a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/2855">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/2855</a>
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Will try find time next week to go through Peter's (a.k.a `karalabe`) suggestions to make some more that will focus the work here a bit.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2017-12-30 11:13</div><div class="msg">@cryptowanderer pinned a message to this channel.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2017-12-30 11:13</div><div class="msg">this also outlines the major features I'd like to see: <a href="https://status-im.slack.com/archives/C87MN9M4Z/p1512382215000247">https://status-im.slack.com/archives/C87MN9M4Z/p1512382215000247</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2017-12-30 11:34</div><div class="msg">and in case you're not busy enough and looking for other things @jeluard :joy: <a href="https://github.com/andytudhope/StatusSeekers/issues/2">https://github.com/andytudhope/StatusSeekers/issues/2</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-30 12:54</div><div class="msg">No worries it will be fine :sweat_smile:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/8f5d17c2210ba9813f6612330fc0fc66.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0014-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">janherich</div><div class="time">2017-12-30 19:31</div><div class="msg">@jeluard Last time we spoke about the API stuff, you were against spending any time on that till our requirements will be more clear. Anything changed in the meantime ?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-31 14:01</div><div class="msg">MVP is now a priority and I don't think we have the bandwidth to address correctly the API. In the meantime there are hackathons coming so it makes sense to restore what used to work (and is documented).</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2017-12-31 14:01</div><div class="msg">What we could do in // is start some document to define what goal we would want to reach.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-17/348134203537_1bc2a6f28471cf6ec828_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hutch</div><div class="time">2018-01-04 03:25</div><div class="msg">@hutch has renamed the channel from "4-3rdparty-developers" to "04-3rdparty-developer"</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-01-05 10:11</div><div class="msg">@cryptowanderer About the permission issue: is it Android? iOS? Or both?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-01-05 10:24</div><div class="msg">I have only tested on Android @jeluard</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-01-08 08:10</div><div class="msg">@janherich Is <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/2855">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/2855</a> you were considering fixing at some point?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/8f5d17c2210ba9813f6612330fc0fc66.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0014-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">janherich</div><div class="time">2018-01-08 08:31</div><div class="msg">Yes, it was, before he had that call :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-01-08 08:32</div><div class="msg">It would be awesome if you have the time to fix it ! Do you think it's a big one?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-01-08 08:33</div><div class="msg">I would say it is a critical fix before the 22nd of Jan... #JustSaying #ActuallyBegging :wink:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/8f5d17c2210ba9813f6612330fc0fc66.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0014-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">janherich</div><div class="time">2018-01-08 08:37</div><div class="msg">Sure I can, it would have been better to start with that much sooner and do it really correctly (many, many things to fix), but I will look at that immediately after today (bugfixing day)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-01-08 08:52</div><div class="msg">@alwx thanks for the offer to help with decentralart - most of the discussion is happening here...</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-01-08 08:52</div><div class="msg">has joined #core-developers</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-01-08 09:08</div><div class="msg">great, thanks @cryptowanderer</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-01-15 07:59</div><div class="msg">@cryptowanderer Is that the art project repo: <a href="https://github.com/andytudhope/StatusSeekers">https://github.com/andytudhope/StatusSeekers</a> ?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-01-15 07:59</div><div class="msg">si signor</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-01-15 08:00</div><div class="msg">will send it over to Status when it is more complete (at least that is what I was thinking). Do you need it there now?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-01-15 08:00</div><div class="msg">If the QR code part is there, we could use it to validate it works fine with status (related to the bounty I opened)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-01-15 08:03</div><div class="msg">it is not currently there, no. Have not worked on that specific part of the DApp since browsing to <a href="https://schmich.github.io/instascan/">https://schmich.github.io/instascan/</a> and figuring out that it wouldn't work no matter what code I wrote :stuck_out_tongue:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-01-15 08:05</div><div class="msg">Didn't you have some kind of bounty open for that too?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-01-15 08:09</div><div class="msg">No, that particular bounty was for making a slick drag and drop div for the keywords that had been found. Then, I added localStorage support. Now, am working with another kid I know in Cape Town (who you will meet :tada: ) to implement NFT stuff, so that you can find actual digital art within the physical structure :mindblown: <a href="https://github.com/andytudhope/StatusSeekers/issues/6">https://github.com/andytudhope/StatusSeekers/issues/6</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-01-15 08:10</div><div class="msg">seemed like a more productive way around things until Media support is properly implemented. Hopefully that nickrakochy guy is working on it like I suggested he should :wink:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-01-16 06:28</div><div class="msg">@jeluard can you comment here when you get in? <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/3003#issuecomment-357808185">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/3003#issuecomment-357808185</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-01-16 06:28</div><div class="msg">@janherich how goes it with `status.response` :wink:?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/8f5d17c2210ba9813f6612330fc0fc66.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0014-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">janherich</div><div class="time">2018-01-16 08:31</div><div class="msg">@cryptowanderer Better, I did some work on it yesterday and hopefully will allocate full day for it (= finish) today :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-01-16 08:33</div><div class="msg">:tada:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-01-16 08:33</div><div class="msg">awesome, thank you so much! Super appreciative over here as this hackathon gets ever closer</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-02-19 00:51</div><div class="msg">Renamed this channel as its more focused on requests and discussions about 3P developers, rather than a swarm with a goal to ship something</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-02-19 19:54</div><div class="msg">I've just created an issue that was a critical blocker for me at ETHDenver: <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/3375">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/3375</a>
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WIFI was dead there, but that was fine, I did oneliner change in `status-react` codebase and wanted to build that version and try it out on my device locally. But build process hangs trying to resolve/reach some internet hosts and so I gave up after two hours.
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From my perspective there are 0 reasons for build process to depend on internet connection. It should build perfectly offline.
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Would be cool if someone from ClojureTeam could figure out why build process needs internet and fix it.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-02-20 08:50</div><div class="msg">We have some external dependencies, and the need of fetching these deps from the internet is pretty obvious, so I don't think there is any good reason to work on this issue.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-03-29 10:23</div><div class="msg">has joined #core-developers</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-03-29 10:23</div><div class="msg">Bringing this channel to life again as a place to chat about the developer ecosystem</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-03-29 10:24</div><div class="msg">Anyone already planning to attend <a href="http://dappdev.org/conference/">http://dappdev.org/conference/</a>?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-03-29 10:40</div><div class="msg">i would like to go and work on developer ecosystem</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-03-29 10:41</div><div class="msg">Seems like @adan @levgeniia @lukasz949 and @sergii so far from the testers.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285383092772_62dfbe80e57ef8940bb7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">sergii</div><div class="time">2018-03-29 10:41</div><div class="msg">has joined #core-developers</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-03-29 11:00</div><div class="msg">Awesome! Hester + Patrick are working on putting together a form for research, in case neither of them can attend</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-03-29 11:00</div><div class="msg">I likely can't either, but I can begin speaking with DApp developers here in Berlin</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-03-29 14:00</div><div class="msg">@rachel are you gonna be in Berlin on the 13th of April? That's when I'll be there, we are having a meetup most likely in Schoneberg, @martin487 and I will be speaking (and hopefully a non-Status person too) and we could try out the first version of that form/test then if you're up for it?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-01/308563433637_bac31bc179bd2f35cf1e_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">martin487</div><div class="time">2018-03-29 14:00</div><div class="msg">has joined #core-developers</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-03-29 14:09</div><div class="msg">I will not. :see_no_evil: Not from April 7-29. That said, I have conversations loosely lined up with some dapp guys for next week already, so I'll be smart about using those to gather info + share?and I'll make sure they know about the meetup</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-03-29 14:11</div><div class="msg">:disappointed:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-03-29 14:15</div><div class="msg">Same :disappointed:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/8f5d17c2210ba9813f6612330fc0fc66.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0014-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">janherich</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 07:24</div><div class="msg">@andrey @roman (and anybody else using ios simulator), which version of XCode do you use ? Since I returned from the Vacation, I can't run the simulator, this linking error always pops up:
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Scanning folders for symlinks in /Users/janherich/Development/status-react/node_modules (13ms)
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I think it's related to RN/Xcode version mismatch, RN version upgrade was merged in recently.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-08-27/423671855091_1b4f90cfbdd6a3ee2b6f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">roman</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 07:24</div><div class="msg">has joined #core-developers</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 07:25</div><div class="msg">i had something similar, without error it's just stuck on `Found Xcode workspace StatusIm.xcworkspace` only reboot my mac helped</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/8f5d17c2210ba9813f6612330fc0fc66.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0014-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">janherich</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 07:25</div><div class="msg">Thanks, I already rebooted, didn't help, will investigate further</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 07:26</div><div class="msg">hm just wanted to check version of xcode and it asks me to install components, looks like better to do not do it :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/8f5d17c2210ba9813f6612330fc0fc66.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0014-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">janherich</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 07:26</div><div class="msg">Don?t touch what?s not broken is the golden rule :)))</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 07:26</div><div class="msg">yeah :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-08-27/423671855091_1b4f90cfbdd6a3ee2b6f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">roman</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 07:47</div><div class="msg">Version 9.2 (9C40b)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/8f5d17c2210ba9813f6612330fc0fc66.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0014-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">janherich</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 07:52</div><div class="msg">Thanks guys, I already solved that (by clicking on ?install components? once I opened status workspace :)) )</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 08:00</div><div class="msg">:slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="" /><div class="message"><div class="username"></div><div class="time">2018-04-03 13:07</div><div class="msg">@martin487 commented on @andrey?s file <a href="https://status-im.slack.com/files/U3P874D5M/FA14QMWK0/image.png">https://status-im.slack.com/files/U3P874D5M/FA14QMWK0/image.png</a>: Made me think of this thing which might be a good inspiration <a href="https://compositor.io/">https://compositor.io/</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 13:11</div><div class="msg">this studio for dapp developers, the idea to have all things in one distributive, so dapp developer could just download and install one app and imediately start developeing dapps for status, he has node with pregenerated accounts which have some funds, also he has access to logs and docs, he just need to enter url with his local dapp and start developing</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 13:12</div><div class="msg">@rachel @cryptowanderer what do you think?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 13:18</div><div class="msg">we can develop it based on status desktop electron, i can create an idea and prepare first prototype next week</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 13:19</div><div class="msg">later we can integrate status fiddle with status components and develop status extensions in this studio as well</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 13:35</div><div class="msg">@andrey I think a tool for developer friendliness is a great idea, but clarify for me which use case this is solving for - a developer trying to optimize existing DApp or build new one? both?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 13:36</div><div class="msg">both</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 13:36</div><div class="msg">I think this is genuinely amazing @andrey :heart_eyes: Is it working well already?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 13:37</div><div class="msg">This sounds genuinely amazing, yeah! @jeluard wdyt - does it change any of your thoughts re idea 101?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 13:39</div><div class="msg">Nice idea @andrey! Just to clarify: this is about the development of ethereum style DApps? (as in HTML/JS/web3.js) ?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 13:40</div><div class="msg">initially yes</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 13:41</div><div class="msg">Ok!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 13:42</div><div class="msg">Yes we want to integrate at some point with status desktop / developer tools. I mentioned this in a previous `idea`.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 13:42</div><div class="msg">Now I think it's a little early to detail more how to integrate extensions into this.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 13:43</div><div class="msg">Sounds simpler to let both evolve and then figure out how to integrate.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 13:43</div><div class="msg">Keeping this in mind of course!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 13:43</div><div class="msg">no it's just an idea in my head ,but it's working well :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 13:44</div><div class="msg">yeah agree</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 13:45</div><div class="msg">super cool. if you write up the idea I'm happy to provide more feedback @andrey. can we use UXR to inform this?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 13:52</div><div class="msg">cool, i'll prepare an idea, could you please elaborate about UXR</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 14:06</div><div class="msg">sure, just bringing back the idea of understanding developer expectations. do we have a clear picture of developers' current blockers with building DApps? do new DApp developers understand all the terminology, idioms, even the underlying tech? are they well-incentivised to build on Status?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-03 14:06</div><div class="msg">these are questions you may know the answer to :slightly_smiling_face: but I know I, personally, am unfamiliar</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-04 07:48</div><div class="msg">i am unfamiliar too, i'm looking from environment pov</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-04 07:49</div><div class="msg">Steps to start developing dapps from scratch for status app, so dapp developer doesn?t have any environment for dapps development
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1) Install virtual machine for mobile device
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2) Download nightly (developer should manually manage this, install new nightly every day)
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3) Install status app on virtual device
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4) Open status app
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6) Get test funds and tokens
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7) Find docs in the web
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8 ) Find how to watch logs open logs
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Virtual machine (genymotion) is not free
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Status studio
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-04 07:59</div><div class="msg">yeah, brilliant. I love it.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-04 08:00</div><div class="msg">and that's helpful for me, thanks @andrey</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-04 08:00</div><div class="msg">Toshi presentation about building mobile friendly dapps <a href="https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1s5kbk9SnOrHVYAn3cBG0gYHHsGz9eCj8qYYxKHSLvIU/edit#slide=id.g31ecc4a791_0_137">https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1s5kbk9SnOrHVYAn3cBG0gYHHsGz9eCj8qYYxKHSLvIU/edit#slide=id.g31ecc4a791_0_137</a>
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Pretty basic</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-04 08:01</div><div class="msg">where does embark factor in? I haven't seen any mention of it in context of the developer ecosystem, but I imagine it's relevant as well</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-04 08:04</div><div class="msg">thanks @jeluard</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-04 08:04</div><div class="msg">has anyone looked into WeChat's Mini Programs?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-04 08:06</div><div class="msg">No but very much interested in it! Do you have anything to share?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-26/320279260448_ec6cae0dd4f9145858b4_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">chad</div><div class="time">2018-04-04 08:09</div><div class="msg">sweet deck</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-04 08:15</div><div class="msg">just started looking into them myself :slightly_smiling_face: apparently there are some limitations:
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```- They can't send out push notifications
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- They can't be shared on users? WeChat timeline (called ?WeChat moments)
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- Mini-programs have to be developed in a specific ?language? (a JavaScript framework developed by Tencent. Developers have to write wxml, wxss instead of traditional html and css, and leverage this framework for all their development)
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- Updates have to be submitted to Tencent
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- WeChat mini-programs only work within WeChat (while a traditional web-App works on any browser)```</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-04 08:15</div><div class="msg">But?they can be used offline (e.g. to unlock a shared bike), and they also solved an issue for influencers in WeChat, by allowing them to link directly to their brand partners' Mini Program from their posts. Posts can't contain normal hyperlinks to web.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-04 08:16</div><div class="msg">embark is a framework helpful in writing code and working with contracts, it's not related to status environment or mobile, for example i'm developing dapp with clojurescript. so i don't use embark or truffle, and also status app provides me a test node ,so i don't need to think about this, only steps that i mentioned before. so let's say 10) and 3) Start to develop (with truffle, embark or diy)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-04 08:18</div><div class="msg">Thanks! Looks like a lot of limitations but great source of inspiration for us</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-26/320279260448_ec6cae0dd4f9145858b4_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">chad</div><div class="time">2018-04-04 08:22</div><div class="msg">Progressive Web Apps are really interesting reference too on mobile. They can work offline, can use push notifications, having native performance, can appear natively on the device <a href="https://developers.google.com/web/progressive-web-apps/">https://developers.google.com/web/progressive-web-apps/</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-26/320279260448_ec6cae0dd4f9145858b4_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">chad</div><div class="time">2018-04-04 08:23</div><div class="msg">A big problem with lots of Dapps is that they are built for desktop and are bloated and slow on mobile. Page loads can take several seconds so the UX is bad. PWA?s address a lot of these problems</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-04 08:23</div><div class="msg">perfect, thanks for the explanation. I'm thinking about how we can also use Embark to foster the ecosystem</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-04 08:28</div><div class="msg">Anything smaller than 10 mb is meant to run "instantly" on WeChat</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-04 08:32</div><div class="msg">Also old but still relevant: <a href="https://a16z.com/2015/08/06/wechat-china-mobile-first/">https://a16z.com/2015/08/06/wechat-china-mobile-first/</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-04 10:37</div><div class="msg">Some notes I compiled about the scope and state of our current API: <a href="https://gist.github.com/jeluard/c826251b83cd4ba44b175cc90568a835">https://gist.github.com/jeluard/c826251b83cd4ba44b175cc90568a835</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-04 10:37</div><div class="msg">And a summary of our hackathon feedback and what features winners used: <a href="https://gist.github.com/jeluard/0e4af629514ca89dc4d176dcc6baa192">https://gist.github.com/jeluard/0e4af629514ca89dc4d176dcc6baa192</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-04 14:31</div><div class="msg">Another interesting read related to WeChat: <a href="https://zarazhang.com/2017/08/27/4-philosophies-underlying-the-wechat-mini-program-lessons-from-the-father-of-wechat/">https://zarazhang.com/2017/08/27/4-philosophies-underlying-the-wechat-mini-program-lessons-from-the-father-of-wechat/</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-04 15:18</div><div class="msg">I love this insight: "The measure of success is how much users get done, not how much time they spend." For us - how much value people derive from transacting inside our ecosystem.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-04 15:21</div><div class="msg">thanks so much for this! I'm going to have a call with Hutch tomorrow so I can get the down low on developer perceptions so far.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 10:41</div><div class="msg">@andrey I love the thought of a one stop distribution. Is there any way I can access this environment? Looking for an opportunity to start UX testing some concept dev environments. Looks pretty solid for 'an idea in your head'!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 11:38</div><div class="msg">found my old doodle <a href="https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1FJvvIgvdAmXJ9pVi2kW8uuMBieLy-ben6ciwZ7C7Gys/edit">https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1FJvvIgvdAmXJ9pVi2kW8uuMBieLy-ben6ciwZ7C7Gys/edit</a> maybe Andy is right, and we don't need separate idea for Dapps, i'm mostly working on web3 and status-go issues and they the same for extensions bots and dapps @igor680 you maybe interested because you're working atm on this flow</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 11:47</div><div class="msg">and status api will be the same for html dapps and for extensions</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 11:51</div><div class="msg">What do you mean?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 12:03</div><div class="msg">Some context about the developer story and how `extensions` fit in: <a href="https://gist.github.com/jeluard/55cfd0e8c7b36f1a51e9fe70c625778b#file-dapps-or-not-dapps-md">https://gist.github.com/jeluard/55cfd0e8c7b36f1a51e9fe70c625778b#file-dapps-or-not-dapps-md</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 12:06</div><div class="msg">i mean if we want to provide status api, for example 3d developer wants to get list of contacts, something like `status.getContacts` it should work the same for dapp developer and for extension developer, same api</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 12:09</div><div class="msg">I understand your point. Now the dev model likely will be pretty different.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 12:09</div><div class="msg">For sure it will not automatically be available to DApps. Maybe this should be a separate swarm?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 12:11</div><div class="msg">I prepared a survey to informally collect SDK requirements from external developers. The objective here is to collect everything we learn in one place. Imagine adding some quick notes after a talk with someone.
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Any additions, corrections? @jeluard @andrey @rachel @chad @cryptowanderer @patrick771
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<a href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=1AEEtqlPKZNp5rhLs3-zDwbFumdsO8qcR10hZY-lRA-g">https://drive.google.com/open?id=1AEEtqlPKZNp5rhLs3-zDwbFumdsO8qcR10hZY-lRA-g</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 12:16</div><div class="msg">:broken_heart:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 12:17</div><div class="msg">I think we can split Question 2 into a few:
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1b. What OS do you use? (Linux/MacOS/Windows/Other)
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2a. Have you built mobile apps before? If so, which platform? (iOS/Android/Other).
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2b. Have you built an Ethereum-based DApp before? If so, what mobile features would you most like to add to it?
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2c. Have you used any Ethereum-based frameworks before? (Embark/Truffle/Meteor)?
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2d. Describe you development environment? (Text area with hints to outline text editor, how they write and test smart contracts locally, i.e. ganache or testrpc, Remix IDE).
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3. What SDK do you enjoy using most (not necessarily blockchain-based)? What do expect from an SDK?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 12:28</div><div class="msg">1. Experience building DApps = 4. Have you built an Ethereum-based DApp before?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 12:29</div><div class="msg">Most frequently used environment -> What IDE do you use</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 12:36</div><div class="msg">@hester Who will fill this survey?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 12:38</div><div class="msg">myself, @cryptowanderer @rachel, basically whomever visits an event with with a lot of (future) DApp developers</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 12:39</div><div class="msg">Ok!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 12:40</div><div class="msg">Thanks for your input/questions!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 12:40</div><div class="msg">I would suggest some more general question, along the line of:
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* what do you expect from a status SDK?
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* how do you want your development to integrate with status?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 12:44</div><div class="msg">Added! We can be more focused based on some initial collections the coming 2 weeks. I definitely don't expect all of us to drill people for half an hour. *Survey to be used with your better judgment.*</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 12:47</div><div class="msg">4. If so, what mobile features would you most like to add to it? could someone elaborate what does it mean?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 12:47</div><div class="msg">8. Most recently used SDK/API and this</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 12:49</div><div class="msg">4. I mean, by that, would your Dapp benefit from adding chat interactions, from having easy access to Ethereum contracts to send transactions, having access to location (in the case of foam network for example), by using a mobile app to register and attend events etc...
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8. I want to try and get a better sense of what the best non-crypto SDKs are out there and why people use them and what they find best about them</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 12:49</div><div class="msg">This is awesome @hester, thank you. I suppose I'm more broadly interested to know what they're building and what's most challenging in trying to achieve full decentralisation. But that doesn't require a survey field, I think it's something I need to get familiar with separately.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 12:50</div><div class="msg">We can have a call about that at some stage if you like @rachel?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 12:51</div><div class="msg">@cryptowanderer yes please! Having a call with @hutch today actually, too.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 12:55</div><div class="msg">To add, I think @cryptowanderer?s open question about which mobile features would benefit their app is the most helpful way to get at extension ideas for Status. Unless devs are well familiarised with Status it will be hard for them to know their expectations from us.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 12:58</div><div class="msg">Cool, thanks! It would be easiest if you were in Berlin, honestly :angry_trump: damn travellers :joy: Maybe this weekend or Friday sometime? Though would be interested to hear what Hutch has to say about this - have you developed any DApps Hutch?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 13:02</div><div class="msg">It would be nice to open the discussion and not constrain ourselves to DApps. Otherwise I fear people will just repeat what they saw in Toshi / Cipher and ask for cryptokitty.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 13:02</div><div class="msg">Remember to be **bold** :morty:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 13:03</div><div class="msg">The first `extension` I will write will send me 50 SNT each time @cryptowanderer says `DApps`</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 13:05</div><div class="msg">I agree. A generic, "what other applications do you foresee for web3?" Would be nice and broad. I'll leave it for now though as this is already quite a but to document on the go</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 13:08</div><div class="msg">Ultimately we care less about helping them build features and more about helping them create awesome user experiences</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 13:18</div><div class="msg">That sounds like a great extension first up @jeluard - I am fully in support :joy: I am still thinking carefully through this stuff about right names, but it is not a trivial problem...</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-01/308563433637_bac31bc179bd2f35cf1e_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">martin487</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 15:18</div><div class="msg">While very different technically the UX reminds me of this idea I've been hashing out over the last week or so: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AirdwlUiVFywfQrhevVOjQpmE--9H80v2dzuHiBoTaE/edit#heading=h.epi1dc37qrb7">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AirdwlUiVFywfQrhevVOjQpmE--9H80v2dzuHiBoTaE/edit#heading=h.epi1dc37qrb7</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 17:48</div><div class="msg">@martin487 really interesting idea, @jeluard have you seen it?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 17:54</div><div class="msg">Similar to what we have in current API with `status.response` ?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 17:58</div><div class="msg">i think the idea to have extension which will listen whisper topic, and sign transactions using user private key, so for example you browsing dapp in desktop browser and want to sign transaction, instead using metamask you open status and sign it in extension, am i right @martin487?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 18:00</div><div class="msg">for example dapp sends whisper message, you receive notification on your phone , press it, and status opened on wallet tab with filled fields, you enter password and press sign</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-01/308563433637_bac31bc179bd2f35cf1e_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">martin487</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 18:01</div><div class="msg">pretty much yeah. could be extended beyond plain transactions with the appropriate ui</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-01/308563433637_bac31bc179bd2f35cf1e_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">martin487</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 18:01</div><div class="msg">I don't fully understand how `status.response` works yet so not sure if it's similar</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 18:06</div><div class="msg">thats super cool idea, imagine, you open dapp in the desktop browser, scan qr using status extension, it sends your status contact to this dapp, so now dapp knows about your status contact, and can send whisper messages to status, and communicate with blockchain through whisper and status app, only one thing we need to provide for dapp developers whisper library</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-01/308563433637_bac31bc179bd2f35cf1e_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">martin487</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 18:08</div><div class="msg">YES!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-01/308563433637_bac31bc179bd2f35cf1e_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">martin487</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 18:09</div><div class="msg">oh @andrey you really get it! I talked about this to a bunch of people and always struggled to get the point across :smile:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-01/308563433637_bac31bc179bd2f35cf1e_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">martin487</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 18:09</div><div class="msg">that QR idea is really interesting as well because otherwise you?d need to enter your address manually (if that's what you meant)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-01/308563433637_bac31bc179bd2f35cf1e_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">martin487</div><div class="time">2018-04-05 18:10</div><div class="msg">@andrey please suggest this for the doc (top right switch from ?editing? to ?suggesting?)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-06 05:37</div><div class="msg">@martin487 i slept on your idea and i think it's a killer feature for status, @chad because you can interact with dapp on any browser, and you don't need plugins, and also this can be used in offline shops, you can pay for shawarma</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-06 05:42</div><div class="msg">and looks like it can be used as a sign in mechanism, so instead enter you login and password, you just scan qr code in status extension, sign message with your keys , and sign in to website wow</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-26/320279260448_ec6cae0dd4f9145858b4_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">chad</div><div class="time">2018-04-06 05:57</div><div class="msg">Reducing friction and improving UX is a great product goal, but is this a premature optimization? Since 0.9.16 came out we?ve had 0 signed transactions in Dapps, and there has been only 1 transaction sent through the wallet (from a few hundred users). An argument can be made that we have higher level problems that need to be addressed such as facilitating transactions and driving DApp usage? It won't matter how seamless and delightful transaction signing is if users don't want to sign transactions in the first place. Thoughts?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-26/320279260448_ec6cae0dd4f9145858b4_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">chad</div><div class="time">2018-04-06 06:07</div><div class="msg">(Unless this is a research project, then just ignore me :zipper_mouth_face:)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-06 06:51</div><div class="msg">we dont have transaction and interactions with dapps , because we are in the test net and there are no working dapps and for me it's not a Reducing friction and improving UX, it's not about improving status at all, it's about killer feature in status, and one more reason why i need to download and use status app , we are talking about new horizons how to use status outside status, and make dapps simple to use outside status, for example , can you interact with dapp in safari using toshi, metamask or other ether wallet? no! can you do it with status ? yes!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-06 07:02</div><div class="msg">@jeluard i think it's a good candidate for our extension as an example</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-06 07:13</div><div class="msg">@andrey Not super clear what the idea is about</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-06 07:30</div><div class="msg">main idea is to communicate with blockchain using whisper
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so communication is library (js or other languages) <-whisper->status extension
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for example you're web developer and you want to get payments in crypto you can just use npm lib and for example use this lib `status.requestPayment(5eth. onSuccess)` and thats it
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this status lib sends whisper message to status, you receive notification in status, open status and just sign this transaction , and status extension sends response to web developer
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and it's secure because whisper</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-06 07:31</div><div class="msg">:rocket: Then moon!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-06 07:32</div><div class="msg">makes sense. Would require some default handling in status, could be using a bundled extension</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-01/308563433637_bac31bc179bd2f35cf1e_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">martin487</div><div class="time">2018-04-06 07:36</div><div class="msg">I?m not 100% sure I understand what is considered an extension yet but :+1: on how @andrey described it</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-06 07:38</div><div class="msg">It's still a mystery. Advanced technology :alien:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-01/308563433637_bac31bc179bd2f35cf1e_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">martin487</div><div class="time">2018-04-06 07:39</div><div class="msg">:joy:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-06 08:15</div><div class="msg">Some collection of use cases that could fit the `extensions` model: <a href="https://gist.github.com/jeluard/0aedda7871f4e07e4004c5270097472d">https://gist.github.com/jeluard/0aedda7871f4e07e4004c5270097472d</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-04-06 09:27</div><div class="msg">`Andy Conditioning` :joy: Screw this hackathon, I want to build that extension :partywizard:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-06 09:46</div><div class="msg">Apparently explaining WeChat to westerners is a business</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-06 09:55</div><div class="msg">??</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-06 09:57</div><div class="msg">I mean there are lots of websites explaining WeChat to non chinese</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-06 10:15</div><div class="msg">Aha yeah, perfect for people like me</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-06 11:10</div><div class="msg">Survey of competing extension models: <a href="https://gist.github.com/jeluard/c56f184332b2e8ca51354c5d277826a9">https://gist.github.com/jeluard/c56f184332b2e8ca51354c5d277826a9</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-04-06 12:25</div><div class="msg">Taking this in all seriousness. I know plenty of people who have a physical jar for this. Could be a playful use case!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-04-06 12:40</div><div class="msg">very cool, thanks @jeluard :heart: Looks like we are on the right track with extensions here</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-07 10:23</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ME957Y6ZnQ">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ME957Y6ZnQ</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-08 07:11</div><div class="msg">kudos @jeluard for putting together so much helpful context on the API and extensions</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-08 07:11</div><div class="msg">collecting all references here - <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/191dWG2OmJsHO_U9p_PLkIuNSnSjn3tZPWNKc_evln1c/edit#heading=h.1trn2dfma3u2">https://docs.google.com/document/d/191dWG2OmJsHO_U9p_PLkIuNSnSjn3tZPWNKc_evln1c/edit#heading=h.1trn2dfma3u2</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-08 07:11</div><div class="msg">@rachel pinned a message to this channel.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-09 03:34</div><div class="msg">Disco? :thinking_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-24/304281668629_99d09ae86c8e0a04b52d_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">growbot</div><div class="time">2018-04-09 03:59</div><div class="msg">has joined #core-developers</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-04-09 03:59</div><div class="msg">Try again @rachel </div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-24/304281668629_99d09ae86c8e0a04b52d_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">growbot</div><div class="time">2018-04-09 03:59</div><div class="msg">Hello #! I'm @growbot. @oskarth invited me to help your team celebrate contributions, big and small. How do you give recognition? By giving :star:s in the channels you invite me to.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-09 04:00</div><div class="msg">Kudos @jeluard for all the dope context on Status API + extensions (:clapper: 2)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-09 04:00</div><div class="msg">Yuuup. Thanks @oskarth!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-09 05:34</div><div class="msg">@andrey totally agree w your comment in the gdoc about resolving any bugs to do with Web3 support?start simple and make sure everyone can at least optimize their existing work for Status. can help get a swarm started...</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-09 14:05</div><div class="msg">folks who are actively participating in developer support work (@andrey @jeluard @cryptowanderer @goranjovic @lukasz949 @hester bueller?), do you want another sync call this week?
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I know there are a ton of great ideas floating around about API/extensions, as well as loads of great insight into dev needs that could be distilled further with more to come from DApp DEV in Kiev.
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Additionally we've just opened a new swarm to get existing html DApps up to par inside Status (#154) and might need support. Would be good to know where everyone's head is at.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-09 14:22</div><div class="msg">Yes would be great! Maybe end of this week? When is DApp dev?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-16/316437191861_849cef1f2e8411a22126_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">lukasz949</div><div class="time">2018-04-10 06:53</div><div class="msg">April 16</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-04-11 07:13</div><div class="msg">Important read for everyone thinking about our developer experience. Chatbots vs web apps: <a href="https://medium.com/@dfeldman/chatbots-what-happened-dcc3f91a512c">https://medium.com/@dfeldman/chatbots-what-happened-dcc3f91a512c</a>.
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Cc @rachel @jeluard @yenda @andrey @andmironov </div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-11 07:21</div><div class="msg">Will read with great care!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-11 07:21</div><div class="msg">Already banned `bot` from my vocabulary :sweat_smile:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-04-11 07:24</div><div class="msg">My favorite line: ??I?m not even sure if we can say ?chatbots are dead,? because I don't even know if they were ever alive.?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-11 07:31</div><div class="msg">great analysis - "So WeChat?s success relied, in part, on recognizing that messaging platforms needn?t restrict themselves purely to messaging UI" (and that a conversational surface doesn't make the HCI any more or less of a dialogue)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-11 07:33</div><div class="msg">Related, from WeChat founder: `WeChat is a tool, not a platform`</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-11 07:33</div><div class="msg">From <a href="https://zarazhang.com/2017/08/27/4-philosophies-underlying-the-wechat-mini-program-lessons-from-the-father-of-wechat/">https://zarazhang.com/2017/08/27/4-philosophies-underlying-the-wechat-mini-program-lessons-from-the-father-of-wechat/</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-04-11 08:03</div><div class="msg">@naghdy favourite line: `As more people message each other, it's inevitable that more businesses will want to message customers.`
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had a long conversation with Vinay Gupta about this in Groningen. Many long conversations actually and they're super keen to see some B2B stuff happening in Status with arbitration, key revocation etc built in and Mattereum providing the backing "supreme court of the internet" while Status connects all the supply chains and taps into what he reckons is a $45trillion p.a. market...</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-04-11 08:04</div><div class="msg">cc @jarradhope for your thoughts on Vinay and Mattereum</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-26/320279260448_ec6cae0dd4f9145858b4_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">chad</div><div class="time">2018-04-11 08:13</div><div class="msg">Meanwhile, Alexa and Google Home are exploding. Same concept, but different context/UI. The statement `the 2016 bot paradigm shift is going to be far more disruptive and interesting` is likely true.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-26/320279260448_ec6cae0dd4f9145858b4_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">chad</div><div class="time">2018-04-11 08:14</div><div class="msg">My old boss used to say it is easy to predict `what` will happen in the future, but very hard to predict `when` it will happen</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-11 08:17</div><div class="msg">@chad Exactly! <a href="https://i.pinimg.com/736x/33/21/20/3321202d17c6a3d7c7cb6e0abb49dc4d--retro-futurism-the-face.jpg">https://i.pinimg.com/736x/33/21/20/3321202d17c6a3d7c7cb6e0abb49dc4d--retro-futurism-the-face.jpg</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-04-11 08:23</div><div class="msg">@chad `Alexa and Google Home are exploding` <-- what do you mean by exploding? They are probably selling tonnes of devices, but the utility is far from there.
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The only thing that works well is ordering on Alexa. Google Home is an over glorified egg timer, and if you've ever tried to use an `Alexa Skill` it's more useless than Siri.
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However something like Dash buttons solves a similar problem as Alexa but in a much more nuanced way. "Crap I ran out of toilet paper, _pushes button_, ok toiler paper is on its way".</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-26/320279260448_ec6cae0dd4f9145858b4_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">chad</div><div class="time">2018-04-11 08:25</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://www.voicebot.ai/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/smart-speaker-use-case-frequency.png">https://www.voicebot.ai/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/smart-speaker-use-case-frequency.png</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-26/320279260448_ec6cae0dd4f9145858b4_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">chad</div><div class="time">2018-04-11 08:26</div><div class="msg">More than an egg timer! Music is pretty huge.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-26/320279260448_ec6cae0dd4f9145858b4_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">chad</div><div class="time">2018-04-11 08:29</div><div class="msg">For ?exploding?, pick your metrics. Unit sales, app downloads, total skills, etc. Gone from 0 to 50M+ devices practically overnight. Some estimates say that in 2020 75% of US households will have a smart speaker.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-26/320279260448_ec6cae0dd4f9145858b4_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">chad</div><div class="time">2018-04-11 08:31</div><div class="msg">Personally, I love Alexa for music and controlling home lights. It feels positively primitive to use a light switch now.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-26/320279260448_ec6cae0dd4f9145858b4_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">chad</div><div class="time">2018-04-11 08:32</div><div class="msg">(i don't want to use a messenger to chat with my lights though. but voice is awesome)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-04-11 08:39</div><div class="msg">Is a Sonos or Apple speaker considered smart?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-04-11 08:39</div><div class="msg">Or a Bose, Beats, etc?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-04-11 08:40</div><div class="msg">Also, the metrics seems to be as a % - I'm curious about absolute numbers. @patrick771 I'm sure has tonnes of context on this as well, feel free to join in with some objective perspective</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-26/320279260448_ec6cae0dd4f9145858b4_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">chad</div><div class="time">2018-04-11 08:42</div><div class="msg">Absolute numbers <a href="https://www.canalys.com/newsroom/smart-speakers-are-fastest-growing-consumer-tech-shipments-surpass-50-million-2018">https://www.canalys.com/newsroom/smart-speakers-are-fastest-growing-consumer-tech-shipments-surpass-50-million-2018</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-26/320279260448_ec6cae0dd4f9145858b4_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">chad</div><div class="time">2018-04-11 08:42</div><div class="msg">> The global smart speaker market is poised to grow to 56.3 million shipments in 2018</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-26/320279260448_ec6cae0dd4f9145858b4_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">chad</div><div class="time">2018-04-11 08:42</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://www.canalys.com/static/speakerssmart_0.gif">https://www.canalys.com/static/speakerssmart_0.gif</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-26/320279260448_ec6cae0dd4f9145858b4_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">chad</div><div class="time">2018-04-11 08:43</div><div class="msg">Sonos One (with voice assistant) and Apple Homepod is considered a smart speaker.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-04-11 08:52</div><div class="msg">The shipments I agree with the absolute numbers, I'm talking about the frequency of utility actions in the chart in absolute numbers. i.e. how many people a day ask their Alexa to help them with tasks beyond `Play Drake`, `Set alarm for 5 minutes`, `Whats the cubs score` or `Whats the weather today`?
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How many people have use the device on a regular basis to solve a problem they have, e.g. Ordered a pizza, booked a hotel, called an uber, sent a message?
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To be clear, I'm not saying that the latter will never happen. It's just that right now these devices are reducing friction for tasks that barely had friction in the first place (how hard is it really to turn a light switch off?). When voice can parse something like `Hey Alexa, order 2x large pepperoni pizzas, large coke. Oh also, are there any coupons for the pizza place down the road? If so, just get it on a deal`, then we're going to start seeing real utility.
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Until then... over-glorified egg timers :smirk:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-06/324554464353_18f48763243f656a4978_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">patrick771</div><div class="time">2018-04-11 09:08</div><div class="msg">@naghdy I think you?ve covered the complexity issue here. Some anec-data. It took the Google travel ~2 years to ship the use case of looking for flight availability ? not even booking. These dialogues can be incredibly complicated voice UX not to mention coordination of available data sources. It?s true that some use cases are far more scoped than others - e.g. your lights are fairly closed system - however anything that requires 3p integration just takes time. I'd say we're still 3-5 years out from a lot of common APIs making these types of complex actions interoperable and smooth.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-26/320279260448_ec6cae0dd4f9145858b4_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">chad</div><div class="time">2018-04-11 09:40</div><div class="msg">Did anyone go to this? <a href="https://attending.io/events/dappathonberlin">https://attending.io/events/dappathonberlin</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-11 15:36</div><div class="msg">shame to have missed, where did you come upon it @chad?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-15/346893164260_0a370a8a1614301a6877_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alexmandel</div><div class="time">2018-04-12 01:27</div><div class="msg">has joined #core-developers</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-12 01:28</div><div class="msg">Welcoming our new technical writer @alexmandel to the developer party. :slightly_smiling_face: Alex, you can find a lot of background on our API work, the hackathon, etc. in here but I'll send relevant links to you separately as well.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-12 01:31</div><div class="msg">@rachel pinned a message to this channel.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-12 01:31</div><div class="msg">@rachel pinned a message to this channel.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-12 01:31</div><div class="msg">@rachel pinned a message to this channel.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-12 01:31</div><div class="msg">@rachel pinned a message to this channel.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-12 01:32</div><div class="msg">@rachel pinned a message to this channel.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-15/346893164260_0a370a8a1614301a6877_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alexmandel</div><div class="time">2018-04-12 01:58</div><div class="msg">Thanks, Rachel!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-12 02:49</div><div class="msg">Sure thing! You're <mailto:alexmandel@status.im|alexmandel@status.im> right? I just shot you an invite to the next sync call for the developer ecosystem people on Friday. No pressure?time zone might be a pain?but if you'd like to listen in for some context you are welcome.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-12 05:35</div><div class="msg">Welcome @alexmandel!:wave:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-15/346893164260_0a370a8a1614301a6877_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alexmandel</div><div class="time">2018-04-12 05:37</div><div class="msg">Thanks, Andrey!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-04-12 05:46</div><div class="msg">Thought I'd share this, as this channel should be focused on having this `DevRel` mindset: <a href="https://medium.com/google-developers/the-core-competencies-of-developer-relations-f3e1c04c0f5b">https://medium.com/google-developers/the-core-competencies-of-developer-relations-f3e1c04c0f5b</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-04-12 05:46</div><div class="msg">```Developer Relations can't be cheerleaders, or sales people in disguise. They should make a horse aware of water, demonstrate how the water can help it, lead it to the water, and make the water as easy as possible to drink.
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```</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-01/308563433637_bac31bc179bd2f35cf1e_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">martin487</div><div class="time">2018-04-12 06:47</div><div class="msg">Good stuff</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-04-12 06:48</div><div class="msg">just wait till the next offsite: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhh_GeBPOhs">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhh_GeBPOhs</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-01/308563433637_bac31bc179bd2f35cf1e_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">martin487</div><div class="time">2018-04-12 07:25</div><div class="msg">This guy :ok_hand:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-12 16:37</div><div class="msg">ahaha thanks @naghdy. this is great.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-13 03:26</div><div class="msg">Written version of this - <a href="https://vomtom.at/hands-on-messenger-status-im/">https://vomtom.at/hands-on-messenger-status-im/</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-13 08:36</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://portis.io/">https://portis.io/</a> apparently makes a DApps usable w/o Metamask or something, not super clear</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-01/308563433637_bac31bc179bd2f35cf1e_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">martin487</div><div class="time">2018-04-13 08:41</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://github.com/portis-project/portis-sdk/blob/master/README.md">https://github.com/portis-project/portis-sdk/blob/master/README.md</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-13 08:53</div><div class="msg">The Portis server only stores</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-04-13 08:54</div><div class="msg">no thanks :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-13 08:55</div><div class="msg">Why just trust! :smile:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-13 10:54</div><div class="msg">Recap from our call-
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```- #154-web3 is in progress (project: <a href="https://goo.gl/cv5w1R">https://goo.gl/cv5w1R</a>)
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- #101-extensions is in progress - @jeluard's write-up on the current API is here: <a href="https://goo.gl/uADGhZ">https://goo.gl/uADGhZ</a>
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- Next up he'll share a manifesto for technical review
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- @patrick @adan @yevheniia and @Serhy attend DApp DEV on Monday 16/04
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- @cryptowanderer is doing some great interview work w/ DApp developers for ETH Prize: <a href="https://goo.gl/3nCf2M">https://goo.gl/3nCf2M</a>
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- 26/04 and 27/04 user testing in Berlin may accommodate DApp UX exploration
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- @alexm @jonny.z and @rachel ideating for technical blog series
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-06/324554464353_18f48763243f656a4978_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">patrick771</div><div class="time">2018-04-13 11:12</div><div class="msg">Home pods are tanking, btw.
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<a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-12/apple-s-stumbling-homepod-isn-t-the-hot-seller-company-wanted">https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-12/apple-s-stumbling-homepod-isn-t-the-hot-seller-company-wanted</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-17/348134203537_1bc2a6f28471cf6ec828_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hutch</div><div class="time">2018-04-13 13:52</div><div class="msg">Pretty interesting feature request (from WhatsApp) that I got ? replace ?phone number? with public key or ens identity.
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<a href="https://faq.whatsapp.com/en/android/26000030/">https://faq.whatsapp.com/en/android/26000030/</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-17/348134203537_1bc2a6f28471cf6ec828_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hutch</div><div class="time">2018-04-13 13:54</div><div class="msg">The idea if i could make a button for someone to click to open a prefilled message to my identity on status seems pretty convenient</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-13 13:54</div><div class="msg">Universal links? Oh no, you just summoned the @chad!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-26/320279260448_ec6cae0dd4f9145858b4_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">chad</div><div class="time">2018-04-13 13:54</div><div class="msg">YES!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-26/320279260448_ec6cae0dd4f9145858b4_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">chad</div><div class="time">2018-04-13 13:55</div><div class="msg">I literally just posted about it in another channel <a href="https://status-im.slack.com/archives/C8HGM58AU/p1523627190000263">https://status-im.slack.com/archives/C8HGM58AU/p1523627190000263</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-17/348134203537_1bc2a6f28471cf6ec828_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hutch</div><div class="time">2018-04-13 13:55</div><div class="msg">this was literally someone reaching out and asking if there will ever be feature subset in status like it; so it's not just me and the @chad :smile:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-26/320279260448_ec6cae0dd4f9145858b4_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">chad</div><div class="time">2018-04-13 13:56</div><div class="msg">i?m in</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-26/320279260448_ec6cae0dd4f9145858b4_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">chad</div><div class="time">2018-04-13 15:11</div><div class="msg">> He says Apple will probably sell 7 million HomePods this year and close to 11 million in 2019
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:thinking_face: Not a breakaway success but probably not tanking with 7mil?
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Personally I wouldn't buy one. Siri sucks, and there is no Spotify support. And it doesn?t even really work with other Apple products or Siri services. Sonos is just so much better (i have a bunch of those), and I love my Alexa.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-10-03/448433513781_35b198abdf960e874693_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jarradhope</div><div class="time">2018-04-15 15:11</div><div class="msg">@cryptowanderer I like vinay and the Mattereum project</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="" /><div class="message"><div class="username"></div><div class="time">2018-04-16 08:54</div><div class="msg">@martin487 commented on @martin487?s file <a href="https://status-im.slack.com/files/U92A3R9A7/FA777C6AX/UPort_Meetup_Attendance_App">https://status-im.slack.com/files/U92A3R9A7/FA777C6AX/UPort_Meetup_Attendance_App</a>: Some thoughts from a meetup on Friday</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-16 09:00</div><div class="msg">@martin487 Transaction via QR code are already supported and part of an ethereum standard. It's a generic mechanism that support smart contract calls too. It is implemented in status, currently limited to ERC20 token transfert.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-16 09:00</div><div class="msg">Is it what you are talking about?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-01/308563433637_bac31bc179bd2f35cf1e_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">martin487</div><div class="time">2018-04-16 09:01</div><div class="msg">Yeah that sounds like what they wanted here. Wasn?t aware this already is a thing, is there documentation somewhere?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-16 09:06</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/blob/master/EIPS/eip-681.md">https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/blob/master/EIPS/eip-681.md</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-01/308563433637_bac31bc179bd2f35cf1e_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">martin487</div><div class="time">2018-04-16 09:09</div><div class="msg">I meant more regarding the Status end of this?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-16 09:36</div><div class="msg">Wallet QR code reader implements this spec. I don't think we have any specific doc no.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-01/308563433637_bac31bc179bd2f35cf1e_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">martin487</div><div class="time">2018-04-16 10:19</div><div class="msg">neat, think it would be cool to document this and expose it as a first ?API? of sorts</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-01/308563433637_bac31bc179bd2f35cf1e_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">martin487</div><div class="time">2018-04-16 10:22</div><div class="msg">@jeluard from these URLs do you think we can derive all necessary information the user may need in order to decide whether they want to actually do the transaction?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-04-16 10:50</div><div class="msg">You only get details about smart contract and such some maybe not for all scenario.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-22/302460725283_f9781c5a7fcc3cf62af9_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">adria</div><div class="time">2018-04-18 12:27</div><div class="msg">has joined #core-developers</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-09-12/240066984213_b35ca6f6b9658bf5cabb_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jonny.z</div><div class="time">2018-04-19 18:43</div><div class="msg">hey all - we are looking to get involved and sponsor Swarm Orange Summit on may 7-11 in Ljubljana <a href="https://ethersphere.github.io/swarm-summit-2018/">https://ethersphere.github.io/swarm-summit-2018/</a>. Anybody in or near Slovenia want to attend and maybe even present some work?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-06/310412231971_aab33885aa55d16e4740_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">arnetheduck.slack</div><div class="time">2018-04-19 23:51</div><div class="msg">I'm attending</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/9a90059210aaacfa5550a12d39020469.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0022-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeka</div><div class="time">2018-04-20 06:38</div><div class="msg">I want to attend.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-09-06/237954395223_d3ed19865c8990049e2b_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">b00ris</div><div class="time">2018-04-20 06:40</div><div class="msg">+1</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-20 11:06</div><div class="msg">I like Google's "opinionated reference" for building amazing web experiences: <a href="https://developers.google.com/web/fundamentals/">https://developers.google.com/web/fundamentals/</a> and could see us doing this for web3/Ethereum at some point</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-09-12/240066984213_b35ca6f6b9658bf5cabb_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jonny.z</div><div class="time">2018-04-20 12:49</div><div class="msg">ok great! Ill let the organizer know. Anyone want to present some work?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-06/310412231971_aab33885aa55d16e4740_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">arnetheduck.slack</div><div class="time">2018-04-21 04:38</div><div class="msg">@jeka /@b00ris perhaps we can get a discussion going on pss by presenting how status uses whisper?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-06/310412231971_aab33885aa55d16e4740_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">arnetheduck.slack</div><div class="time">2018-04-21 04:57</div><div class="msg">here's how we could do a 4-part miniseries on whisper:
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1. intro technology in general (@jarradhope, @arnetheduck.slack, @jeka?)
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2. the messages/payloads we send back and forth to chat and do other stuff (@yenda, @janherich, @jeluard?)
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3. how we achieved the massive bandwidth reduction - tech of whisperV6, playing with payload (@yenda, @janherich, @jeka?)
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4. challenges and ideas for the future (peeps based on our recent whisper calls)
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this would be a (fair) bit of work to produce nicely though, with graphs and other eye-candy.. one way I maybe would be to set up a swarm for it, but before going through that stuff I would gauge early interest @alexmandel @jonny.z @rachel
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then we'd also have to think a little bit about the likelihood that we pivot to other tech later like swarm, swarm pss or whatever, but that's the kind of stuff that fits under 4.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-04-21 05:12</div><div class="msg">This is a great idea. One misconception I hear a lot is "but how can you send messages on the blockchain", so even just having a layman's explanation post we can refer people to here would be useful</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-04-21 16:15</div><div class="msg">This is true. In Denver many people were asking the same question - "you're guys aren't storing the messages in the blockchain, are you?". I even had to explain our communication stack to pretty technical folks from LivePeer for example.
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I would love to generate some visualizations of Whisper behaviour (including demos of PoW, and decay due to TTL) for the post.
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Also, I think it's important for introductory posts to outline the p2p messengers' history (there were a few attempts before), and explain why this time is a bit different (tl;dr: existing p2p layer from blockchain nodes that are incentivized to be online and play fair).</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-09-06/237954395223_d3ed19865c8990049e2b_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">b00ris</div><div class="time">2018-04-21 20:25</div><div class="msg">@arnetheduck.slack Yes, i think we can.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-06/310412231971_aab33885aa55d16e4740_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">arnetheduck.slack</div><div class="time">2018-04-22 03:42</div><div class="msg">I'm not totally convinced about the plain user approach, at least not for this series. It's going to do us no good if there are no developers willing to adapt their app for status, and to do that we have to be attractive to developers .. yet another intro won't help that - I think it's also important that we start building a reputation as solid base layer provider as well to gain the trust of the people that will end up writing apps on our platform</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-22 06:03</div><div class="msg">Great idea and I can help organize a swarm. I think we should publish the documentation for our communication protocol if not before Part I, then very closely to it, no @arnetheduck.slack? @alexmandel let's chat tomorrow to work out timing.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-06/310412231971_aab33885aa55d16e4740_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">arnetheduck.slack</div><div class="time">2018-04-22 07:06</div><div class="msg">like always, it's good to have solid, detailed documentation that people can open up after reading the blog post and actually wanting to take action! if the world were only this perfect, however... and blog posts are at least honest about being out of date :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-23 01:12</div><div class="msg">I'd also prefer not to delay this content, especially while it's most newsworthy :slightly_smiling_face: We'll get sorted on cadence today then.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-17/348134203537_1bc2a6f28471cf6ec828_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hutch</div><div class="time">2018-04-23 14:10</div><div class="msg">cc @jonny.z Would love to have this going ? I wonder if this is better suited for part of the State of Us series @cryptowanderer ?since we're having a professionally done podcast series w/ transcript as well this could be a great way to get more eyes on our tech stack and inform.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-17/348134203537_1bc2a6f28471cf6ec828_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hutch</div><div class="time">2018-04-23 14:13</div><div class="msg">Not sure if it's the same thing or not (state of us), but just mentioning ? it's pretty hard to do ?great? video for stuff like this especially without it becoming a talking heads thing and / or racking up production costs. So I think podcast + blog / transcript would work really well for it if the cadence and agenda is really laid out nicely.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-09-12/240066984213_b35ca6f6b9658bf5cabb_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jonny.z</div><div class="time">2018-04-26 21:59</div><div class="msg">following up on this. It is a really great idea and agree with @rachel that documentation should be published before we release the blog post. Has this swarm kicked off? Not sure this fits into the podcast @hutch as it feels very dense for a recorded conversation. Feel like it needs to be documented and supported with visuals. What are next steps? I can arrange visuals if provided a list of needs</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-26 23:21</div><div class="msg">Not yet @jonny.z but I have a draft idea written up in a gdoc. Will share today, next step will be to get feedback on that :)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-26 23:22</div><div class="msg">Also thought we could use it as an experiment for marketing team to experience swarms </div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-09-12/240066984213_b35ca6f6b9658bf5cabb_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jonny.z</div><div class="time">2018-04-26 23:23</div><div class="msg">sounds perfect to me....i actually was looking into creating a swarm today and got lost in github.....my github game is weak</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-26 23:30</div><div class="msg">I can help w that! Will be in a few hours from now, so we can connect again morning EDT.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-06/310412231971_aab33885aa55d16e4740_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">arnetheduck.slack</div><div class="time">2018-04-27 00:25</div><div class="msg">so the way I see it, videos/podcasts tend to hover around 90% entertainment and 10% content.. the blog posts I like as a developer are maybe 50/50 while docs can go all the way to 10/90.. so while I don't mind podcasts at all, I agree with @jonny.z that the density of a whisper series for developers is higher than what is suitable for that medium..</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-27 04:59</div><div class="msg">Have a look when you can, guys - <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f2XHaBy6DUY3XTso_j1MFmDopgLon932rbTSjaU8xzA/edit?usp=sharing">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f2XHaBy6DUY3XTso_j1MFmDopgLon932rbTSjaU8xzA/edit?usp=sharing</a> @arnetheduck.slack @jonny.z @alexmandel. If this approach sounds good, we can rally some contributors and add target dates for publication.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-27 05:01</div><div class="msg">And @hutch maybe we can have a podcast on this topic later on, if not as the basis for the series :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-09-12/240066984213_b35ca6f6b9658bf5cabb_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jonny.z</div><div class="time">2018-04-27 12:28</div><div class="msg">@rachel this is really great and im looking forward to diving in. From a marketing perspective, i want to think about the full user journey as this is such an important piece. We can make this a multi-touchpoint initiative with goals beyond page views, awareness, education. We can continue the user journey beyond content consumption and into Riot, Embark, SOB, building DApps, etc. However, to do this, we will need some additional content to accompany the blog. For example:
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- Are there any light weight Demo's/tutorials we can create to help illustrate the really complex issues (possibly on Embark?)
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- Case Studies of others using whisper
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- Specific bounties related to whisper for people to work on?
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- Follow up AMA's with the team (after each post)
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I just really want people to use this info to go build things on their own and use us a resource for support.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-15/346893164260_0a370a8a1614301a6877_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alexmandel</div><div class="time">2018-04-28 22:49</div><div class="msg">Super! A thorough and insightful road map, @rachel!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-04-30 02:46</div><div class="msg">I love your thinking @jonny.z. I would prioritize only what we can do under resource constraints. We could benefit from a team of devs being devoted strictly to evangelism like this. Realistically at this stage, we can create and promote relevant bounties, and depending on who contributes, conduct follow up AMAs. I'm not sure if any case studies exist yet, and tutorials/guidelines can happen in another scope. Ideally community members will begin to create their own!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-09-12/240066984213_b35ca6f6b9658bf5cabb_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jonny.z</div><div class="time">2018-04-30 19:09</div><div class="msg">@rachel ok awesome. So next steps seem to be landing on outline of miniseries and then outline for each "episode". From there, I can work on getting this in the calendar and building out the moving pieces around it. Great to see this coming together</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-05-01 03:28</div><div class="msg">Yes. I will put this in a PR *today* when I get home. Once the idea is on github, we need to commit some contributors who can write the content before we officially kick off. Fortunately @cryptowanderer is helping recruit! Are you a member of our github org @jonny.z? cc @kim196, who I know is probably interested</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-08-23/422058362675_dc3e307b6e9052d90b4c_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">kim196</div><div class="time">2018-05-01 11:49</div><div class="msg">thanks @rachel I am in github .I do think there may be some benefit in marketing adopting the swarm model for larger initiatives so would like to participate if I am able to contribute. Dev evangelists are a huge need and should perhaps be folded into our larger advocacy program as a priority. I agree there is nice potential to enhance the series with visual elements - from simple illustrations, video or something like what @divan has done - in real time on our site and even ultimately some VR type experiential projects (wish list).</div></div></div><br/>
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I'm also planning to do basic Whisper concepts 3D animations, plus now working on visualizing discovery process (how nodes find each other and form the network) and some explanations about Kademlia protocol (basis for geth's p2p discovery). This is more tricky, but should be cool also. I've never seen good visualizations of these things.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-09-12/240066984213_b35ca6f6b9658bf5cabb_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jonny.z</div><div class="time">2018-05-01 11:56</div><div class="msg">@rachel yes i am part of the org in GH. I will be a contributor and will track GH thanks</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-08-23/422058362675_dc3e307b6e9052d90b4c_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">kim196</div><div class="time">2018-05-01 12:18</div><div class="msg">Amazing @divan yes, agree graphic representation of these things is tough to pull off well.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-05-04 15:40</div><div class="msg"><!here> I think it makes sense to set some OKRs for our developer ecosystem strategy, so that we can prioritize all of the work going into it. If you're interested in the discussion, would you weigh in on the starter ideas in this deck? <a href="https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/17Dqql1zmAqXe052disLHmzSgnhB4N8eNMXwA5_FhM-0/edit?usp=sharing">https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/17Dqql1zmAqXe052disLHmzSgnhB4N8eNMXwA5_FhM-0/edit?usp=sharing</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-05-09 10:59</div><div class="msg">@nastya or @sergii could you please test this critical one <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/4152">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/4152</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-07-31/220671542518_0d49983291e646e395f0_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">nastya</div><div class="time">2018-05-09 10:59</div><div class="msg">has joined #core-developers</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-05-09 11:01</div><div class="msg">@jeluard @rachel am i right we decided to use this channel for our team?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-05-09 11:02</div><div class="msg">@andrey yes we can use this one, although @jeluard created it so I can't rename it</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-05-09 11:06</div><div class="msg">How do we want to call it?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285383092772_62dfbe80e57ef8940bb7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">sergii</div><div class="time">2018-05-09 11:14</div><div class="msg">Will jump on it once finish with 4094 PR</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-05-09 13:24</div><div class="msg">Should this be `core-developers` ?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-05-09 13:27</div><div class="msg">we have #core-chat and #core-wallet , so i think yes</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-05-09 13:28</div><div class="msg">@jeluard has renamed the channel from "developers" to "core-developers"</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-05-09 13:30</div><div class="msg">yes! thanks @jeluard :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-05-09 13:31</div><div class="msg">it's a bit different from the DApp topic but can't worry about it now</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-05-07/358889601857_c292594c07cad75d681a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">sebastian334</div><div class="time">2018-05-25 14:39</div><div class="msg">has joined #core-developers</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-05-29 15:09</div><div class="msg">Just fixed `extensions` demo site (HTTP only for now)
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<a href="https://jeluard.github.io/pluto/">https://jeluard.github.io/pluto/</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-05-29 15:17</div><div class="msg">```
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:unknown-element-type{:value :hooks/main, :key :hooks/main}
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-05-29 15:17</div><div class="msg">is that expected?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-05-29 15:35</div><div class="msg">Yes</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-05-29 15:44</div><div class="msg">where can i find latest sources?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-05-29 15:50</div><div class="msg">My github, project pluto</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-05-29 16:54</div><div class="msg">neat</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-05-29 16:54</div><div class="msg">:heart:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-05-29 17:23</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://github.com/jeluard/pluto">https://github.com/jeluard/pluto</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-19/317312541699_2fd60c283b2a9a58bf87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">iuri</div><div class="time">2018-06-05 13:36</div><div class="msg">has joined #core-developers</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344680517492_45950d3dc7d5a9905d82_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jonathanrainville</div><div class="time">2018-06-05 13:37</div><div class="msg">has joined #core-developers</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-19/317312541699_2fd60c283b2a9a58bf87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">iuri</div><div class="time">2018-06-05 13:47</div><div class="msg">@jeluard @rachel @jonathanrainville @cryptowanderer
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- API to specify what node status should connect to
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- API to specify what URL the dapp is located at / add a dapp
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- API to ping if the status phone app is available</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-06-05 13:48</div><div class="msg">Perfect.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-06-05 14:08</div><div class="msg">It would be super helpful if we had a future-looking version of this diagram, so we can see how all the pieces connect: <a href="https://realtimeboard.com/app/board/o9J_kzCcpHk=/">https://realtimeboard.com/app/board/o9J_kzCcpHk=/</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-09-07/237395147762_41041c5be71b2b3bc1d1_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">3esmit</div><div class="time">2018-06-07 18:52</div><div class="msg">- API to add a contact (with allowance)
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- API to read user key (with allowance)
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ping @barry and @rachel about #151-ens-usernames</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-05-14/363707704565_2e5e86c7fcaa985eacd9_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">barry</div><div class="time">2018-06-07 18:52</div><div class="msg">has joined #core-developers</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-06-07 21:41</div><div class="msg">It might be worth tweeting this out to ask people what other information would be useful to add?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-06-08 08:18</div><div class="msg">@oskarth we've got a running list of APIs that would be useful to external developers, from contract & Embark teams :point_up:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-06-08 08:48</div><div class="msg">That'd be cool. Oskar and I are going to meet this afternoon to jam on documentation and developer journey stuff. Maybe we can come up with something a little meatier to share.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-06-08 10:39</div><div class="msg">Think it's a good idea to fold #documentation into this channel. For us to go through later: <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14UWnvqTwqqflN3tUJFmGsPX21ZsFucAYfCbbTb_K22U/edit#gid=0">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14UWnvqTwqqflN3tUJFmGsPX21ZsFucAYfCbbTb_K22U/edit#gid=0</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-06-08 15:01</div><div class="msg">@iuri @3esmit who do you imagine using these APIs in what contexts? From e.g. Embark when writing Dapps?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-19/317312541699_2fd60c283b2a9a58bf87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">iuri</div><div class="time">2018-06-08 15:03</div><div class="msg">yeah</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-19/317312541699_2fd60c283b2a9a58bf87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">iuri</div><div class="time">2018-06-08 15:04</div><div class="msg">it allows embark to communicate with the status app and configure itself and the status app so the dev can develop his status dapp more easily</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-06-11 11:32</div><div class="msg"><!here> - @oskarth and I got together to talk developer journeys & docs to support them on Friday.
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These are the 3 journeys, from our POV*:
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1. *I want to build Status.* I'm a core or OS contributor, potential hire, bounty contributor, etc.
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2. *I want to build my own DApp.* a. *any DApp* or b. *a mobile/Status-specific DApp*.
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3. *I want to learn about about web3* out of general interest.
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Here's how we mapped it on the white board: <a href="https://realtimeboard.com/app/board/o9J_kzBXeuc=/">https://realtimeboard.com/app/board/o9J_kzBXeuc=/</a>
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:arrow_right: From a docs perspective, the next step is to update and repurpose this article into our quickstart: <a href="https://wiki.status.im/Building_Status">https://wiki.status.im/Building_Status</a>
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_Requires support from React & Go team members._
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:arrow_right: From a core product perspective, the next steps are to actually build extensions and APIs that let devs do stuff like ping Status and specify nodes.
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_This is primarily the domain of @jeluard and the core DApps team right now. Extensions are WIP._</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-08-23/422058362675_dc3e307b6e9052d90b4c_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">kim196</div><div class="time">2018-06-11 11:49</div><div class="msg">This is great @rachel, from a marketing perspective [the only group we see a lot of that is not accounted for is traders which will be ours to tackle indirectly] so I am sure we will benefit greatly from your documentation and be able to align that content with what we need...same buckets essentially.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-06-11 15:42</div><div class="msg">What about the use case of _I want my DApp to be optimized for Status_?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-06-11 16:18</div><div class="msg">@naghdy isn't this captured under 2?
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> b. *a mobile/Status-specific DApp*.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-06-11 16:22</div><div class="msg">Ah sorry I missed that somehow. :+1:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-06-11 17:00</div><div class="msg">Yeah, and those can be separated and broken into topics?submitting your DApp to Status, optimizing for mobile, extending your DApp/Status, etc.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-06-11 19:42</div><div class="msg">so great! Nice work @rachel and @oskarth</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-06-12 08:11</div><div class="msg">Update @oskarth et al. - I'm going to meet with a few technical people at Factory Mitte and Kreuzberg today to watch them go through our current Build Status docs. You, @oskarth, are welcome to come observe as well.
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Is there _any other entry point_ to building Status that people are using besides this page to get up to speed right now: <a href="https://wiki.status.im/Building_Status">https://wiki.status.im/Building_Status</a> ?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-06-12 08:12</div><div class="msg">cc @cryptowanderer as you might have insight here from Bounty contributors</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-06-12 08:12</div><div class="msg">oh awesome! do you know what time? I'm probably booked but if I can it'd be nice to see</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-06-12 08:12</div><div class="msg">that's the main one</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-07-31/220671542518_0d49983291e646e395f0_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">nastya</div><div class="time">2018-06-12 08:12</div><div class="msg">@rachel this page is a main source</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-06-12 08:13</div><div class="msg">Cool, thanks guys. :+1: It will be at 2 pm in Mitte today, and 5 pm in G�rlitzer Park. I'm doing laps.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-06-12 08:21</div><div class="msg">Yeah, it's the main source. Good luck with that - it is not even close to easy and you're definitely gonna have some upset developers to soothe :wink:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-06-12 08:24</div><div class="msg">My aim is to get those reactions on camera so we have ample motive to update the content :sunglasses:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-06/310412231971_aab33885aa55d16e4740_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">arnetheduck.slack</div><div class="time">2018-06-12 08:28</div><div class="msg">I've been in touch with people interested in <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-go-sdk">https://github.com/status-im/status-go-sdk</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-06-12 08:41</div><div class="msg">@oskarth and I are seeding the discourse now and this might be relevant @arnetheduck.slack <a href="https://discuss.status.im/t/status-communication-protocol-changes/17">https://discuss.status.im/t/status-communication-protocol-changes/17</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-06-12 08:41</div><div class="msg">You've read the doc before - I did just add a line at the end about the importance of the sdk</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-06-12 13:37</div><div class="msg">@arnetheduck.slack what do you mean, people who are interested in building go?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-06-12 16:07</div><div class="msg">So, highlight from the two people I observed using `Build Status` today...they both ran into issues during setup and quit.
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The first couldn't get past npm issues, even after downgrading his version. He found that a bit unusual but also frustrating, because we specify which npm version but not which version of node. Network issues meant that we had to restart the installation multiple times, and because there are a lot of dependencies, that ate up the majority of our time.
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The second sought out a Status package manager initially. Failing that, he read more carefully but couldn't figure out the right repo to clone. Went seeking a JavaScript repo and was denied permissions on <a href="http://status-im.github.io">http://status-im.github.io</a>. He wasn't familiar with Clojure and said, "I wouldn't bother trying status-react because I don't know this stuff"?probably more of a blocker for those with only casual interest.
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From both it became obvious that the steps aren't simple enough, the order of information isn't right, and a heads up about the amount of dependencies and time/size of install would be helpful. An introduction to the languages used, especially Clojure, would also help those who are less familiar with Status.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-06-12 16:22</div><div class="msg">Good insights! The doc is definitely out of sync.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-06-12 16:23</div><div class="msg">Now there is also room for improvements ..</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-07-31/220671542518_0d49983291e646e395f0_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">nastya</div><div class="time">2018-06-12 17:14</div><div class="msg">@rachel we had an offisite recently and @adan was demostrating this process to test team, maybe he can help with updating the doc? I thought it was fine using this guide (personally i managed it as well)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-06-12 17:42</div><div class="msg">This is an accurate description of my attempts to build status-react also. :disappointed:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-09-07/237395147762_41041c5be71b2b3bc1d1_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">3esmit</div><div class="time">2018-06-13 11:25</div><div class="msg">Also by dapps that are aware of being status app and might request add a contact, like a mailto: link maybe</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-09-07/237395147762_41041c5be71b2b3bc1d1_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">3esmit</div><div class="time">2018-06-13 11:45</div><div class="msg">The API should look like an extension of web3 itself, we should take care to don't allow malicious actions through our API</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-06-01/375000796951_78d872be972af4441b52_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">exiledsurfer</div><div class="time">2018-06-14 10:09</div><div class="msg">Turbo-Geth: Where we are at ? Alexey Akhunov ? Medium
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<a href="https://medium.com/@akhounov/turbo-geth-where-we-are-at-94598690bb02">https://medium.com/@akhounov/turbo-geth-where-we-are-at-94598690bb02</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-06-14 10:22</div><div class="msg">@cryptowanderer @jeluard
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Time to prioritize the extensions work we think will be most impactful during Q3. We've got this brainstorming doc to chat in: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/14pnvLcUPCPiDUlTO182NPoEDrVPjW3MD8peX_UiuATY/edit?usp=sharing">https://docs.google.com/document/d/14pnvLcUPCPiDUlTO182NPoEDrVPjW3MD8peX_UiuATY/edit?usp=sharing</a>
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I think we should be asking ourselves: what would get developers at DevCon most excited to leverage from Status? Push notifications?
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And what can we do to connect chat, wallet and browser as seamlessly as possible? We want people at DevCon using Status and SNT, incl. for swag, so extensions for internal use are equally important.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-06-14 10:36</div><div class="msg">Push Notifications? Do you have something specific in mind?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-06-14 10:38</div><div class="msg">No, no - just a thought starter</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-06-14 10:45</div><div class="msg">cc @alexmandel here are some of the problems I uncovered w/ the current `Build Status` guide, although there are surely more</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-06-14 11:10</div><div class="msg">@rachel @alwx I just checked StatusBuild.md document and I'm glad that some work has been finally started around building issues. But let me comment you that this sort of "install dependencies and run these command" instructions are kinda obsolete now and most developers do not want to mess with their system installation, reinstall different versions etc. Millions of developers are using Docker for exactly this kind of problems, and there is no reason why we should not. Actually, this is default assumption for any developer now ? that there is a docker image with all building tools preinstalled that allows you to build app in a single command.
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I opened the issue for that here <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/3631">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/3631</a> and tried to implement myself, but as I'm far from JS/Java/Clojure world, my attempts have failed.
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If you're devoted to move this issue forward, please push on Clojure team to take that issue and dockerize the build tools and process :slightly_smiling_face: I would be eternally grateful if that ever happens, because so far extreme complexity to build status-react has been my number one problem in the status development and buried down many of the ideas.
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And huge thanks in advance :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-06-14 11:10</div><div class="msg">I can take a look at this thing, sure.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-06-14 11:12</div><div class="msg">This is super helpful feedback! And very resonant with what I heard from the two people I observed so far. Great to see this issue.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-06-14 11:13</div><div class="msg">My 2 cents: never used docker for dev stuff and never came across a project that did use it</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-06-14 11:15</div><div class="msg">Probably not something that a clojure dev expect</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-06-14 11:18</div><div class="msg">Yeah, and that's sad to hear, honestly. Some of our Clojure devs never heard about Docker before at all. Modern software development is practically unimaginable without docker, as it allows to codify repetitive tasks in a truly isolated and cross-platform way.
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Actually, not till long ago, we didn't even have makefile. People were expected to run all these build commands by copy pasting it from documentation (and figuring out which ones are relevant for their case).</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-06-14 11:19</div><div class="msg">I don't use the makefile</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-06-14 11:19</div><div class="msg">The setup phase is not the same as the build commands</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-06-14 11:25</div><div class="msg">@rachel Could you share the feedback you got somewhere? Also what about having a swarm for this?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-06-14 11:26</div><div class="msg">@jeluard but you do agree that codifying repetitive tasks is a right thing to do, right?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-06-14 11:28</div><div class="msg">@divan Sure. Our current process is too complex, brittle, and is some cases plain broken. Docker might play a role here but I don't see it as a panacea. It would probably not help me day to day.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-06-14 11:29</div><div class="msg">We started some project to improve it already, e.g. <a href="https://github.com/status-im/clj-rn">https://github.com/status-im/clj-rn</a>. WIP</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-06-14 11:29</div><div class="msg">What is missing IMO is the global picture</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-06-01/375000796951_78d872be972af4441b52_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">exiledsurfer</div><div class="time">2018-06-14 11:29</div><div class="msg">Technical Advisory: "ROHNP"- Key Extraction Side Channel in Multiple Crypto Libraries
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<a href="https://www.nccgroup.trust/us/our-research/technical-advisory-return-of-the-hidden-number-problem/">https://www.nccgroup.trust/us/our-research/technical-advisory-return-of-the-hidden-number-problem/</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-06-14 11:30</div><div class="msg">For instance we should have one line command to create binaries. Here Docker might be interesting.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-06-14 11:32</div><div class="msg">It's not a panacea, but it's a nice upgrade from "not sure if I can build it even after installing everything and following all instructions" to "guaranteed to build on any computer no matter what I have installed" :slightly_smiling_face:
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For core devs who hack all day on the code and the process, of course, "native" way would be preferred, but it's still important that they understand the importance to keep dockerized build in the updated and working state (easiest way to ensure it ? use in CI).</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-15/346893164260_0a370a8a1614301a6877_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alexmandel</div><div class="time">2018-06-15 02:19</div><div class="msg">Hi, here is my first set of questions ([Alex] in red):
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<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YrCV28OBiAAKnNBwdjKq_V38Ncjar9FBE0tMxjon2n8/edit">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YrCV28OBiAAKnNBwdjKq_V38Ncjar9FBE0tMxjon2n8/edit</a>
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@adan, would you be able to talk about this next week?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-06/310412231971_aab33885aa55d16e4740_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">arnetheduck.slack</div><div class="time">2018-06-15 08:12</div><div class="msg">We've created an sdk for go developers to rx/tx messages the same way our app does it.. In case someone has a go app and wants to integrate it with our messaging</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-06-15 09:13</div><div class="msg">@arnetheduck.slack got it. Do you know if any of them tried it using the repo directions?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-06/310412231971_aab33885aa55d16e4740_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">arnetheduck.slack</div><div class="time">2018-06-16 07:06</div><div class="msg">no idea - they were some students and I didn't hear back from them</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-06-20 16:10</div><div class="msg">Hey, what do you mean by read user key @3esmit? cc @alwx</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-09-07/237395147762_41041c5be71b2b3bc1d1_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">3esmit</div><div class="time">2018-06-20 17:14</div><div class="msg">User visiting a dapp might allow site to read itals public key, so ens usernames can auto fill that text box with user public key.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-06-20 21:25</div><div class="msg">ok, thanks</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-06-22 07:17</div><div class="msg">@alwx I assigned you a number of issues related to npm. Sounds like the right time to dig those!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-06-22 07:17</div><div class="msg">At least get some understanding of them and have some plan.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-06-22 07:17</div><div class="msg">sure, will start looking later today</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-06-22 07:18</div><div class="msg">:+1:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-06-22 08:38</div><div class="msg">Yeah, no-one can build Status anymore :disappointed: Would love to be able to make those particular docs really shine, but my `npm install` just hangs indefinitely, so can't proceed, no matter which version I use (have tried node v6, v7, v7, v9 and v10).</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-06-28 08:10</div><div class="msg">Cross-posting. This was a big pain point when I watched developers try to build Status recently, and I bet it put off more than a few potential contributors. Thanks @alwx for getting Status developer tools back into shape! :raised_hands:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-02 21:37</div><div class="msg">there were no my name on the latest town hall slides :disappointed_relieved:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-02 21:38</div><div class="msg">but it doesn?t really matter, of course</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 06:03</div><div class="msg">Hey very sorry about that! Those slides were previously swarm oriented and we forgot to update them with your name on it!
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We'll make sure it's fixed for next town hall.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 06:19</div><div class="msg">it's ok, no worries :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 06:38</div><div class="msg">Hey @alwx! Can you share your current progress about npm? Can we merge <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/4974">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/4974</a> (requires rebase apparently)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 07:20</div><div class="msg">oh, it's weird that we haven't merged it yet. yes, I will rebase it soon</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 07:26</div><div class="msg">I remember you had a discussion with Ivan. Has it been sorted out?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 10:41</div><div class="msg">If you're talking about yarn, I am still trying to understand it. Hope to commit something today or tomorrow.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 10:42</div><div class="msg">Ok. Any luck with the rebase?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 10:47</div><div class="msg">finished rebasing, double-checking it now</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 10:52</div><div class="msg">Cool! Please go ahead and merge it after!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 12:15</div><div class="msg">finally merged</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 12:15</div><div class="msg">so I will continue with yarn</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 12:16</div><div class="msg">we also have a discussion in 45 mins, right?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 12:42</div><div class="msg">You mean the sync call? It was at noon CEST</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 12:43</div><div class="msg">no
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we have a ?<a href="http://docs.status.im">http://docs.status.im</a> kickoff? in ~15 mins</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 12:43</div><div class="msg">oh, it's not really related</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 12:44</div><div class="msg">Oh sorry yes we do</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 12:44</div><div class="msg">Yes it is related actually</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 13:41</div><div class="msg">@alwx see <a href="https://github.com/status-im/docs.status.im/tree/NewSite">https://github.com/status-im/docs.status.im/tree/NewSite</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 13:41</div><div class="msg">Damn, the internet in the cafe died :disappointed:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 13:42</div><div class="msg">Will try to connect again in several minutes</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 14:02</div><div class="msg">Using <a href="https://docusaurus.io/">https://docusaurus.io/</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 20:53</div><div class="msg">@rachel can you share the slides we filled during the call?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 20:53</div><div class="msg">oh, I can probably find them in the calendar</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 20:53</div><div class="msg">alright, nvm</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 21:00</div><div class="msg">Small update: I just wanted to tell that I am right now working on migration to yarn; after I finish I want to focus more on ?Building Status? doc. I already simplified `scripts/setup`, so it should work in 90% of cases, and will simplify it even more. I also want to check `scripts/setup` on Linux in the next couple of days and make sure it works.
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I think in the next 3-5 days we will finally come up to nice, small and clear ?Building Status? document and can guarantee that Status is buildable without problems in most of cases. It would also be nice to create a small ?Troubleshooting? section for those who have some weird npm/yarn setup, etc.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 21:09</div><div class="msg">great to finally get yarn sorted and get some more reliability in our setup</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 06:20</div><div class="msg">Great! Let's make sure we nail this one!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 06:21</div><div class="msg">@alwx You can already update the doc here: <a href="https://github.com/status-im/docs.status.im/tree/NewSite/docs">https://github.com/status-im/docs.status.im/tree/NewSite/docs</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 13:00</div><div class="msg">That is awesome @alwx. I'm going to try building Status again :slightly_smiling_face: And I'm happy to help proofread the doc.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 08:25</div><div class="msg">I cannot commit to <a href="https://github.com/status-im/docs.status.im">https://github.com/status-im/docs.status.im</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 08:25</div><div class="msg">Can somebody check the permissions?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 08:27</div><div class="msg">@oskarth maybe?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 14:19</div><div class="msg">Hey everybody!
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This thing is done: <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/5056">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/5056</a>
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I checked it on two machines, everything works fine :muscle:
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I also updated the documentation, but cannot push it because I have no permissions.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 14:27</div><div class="msg">Great job!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 14:28</div><div class="msg">So I guess it closes both <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/2541">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/2541</a> and <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/2937">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/2937</a> too then ?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 14:29</div><div class="msg">If so we could remove the hacks we have in Jenkinsfile</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 14:33</div><div class="msg">Hm interesting, I will check these tasks</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 14:33</div><div class="msg">Probably yes, both tasks can be closed now, but I am not entirely sure</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 07:54</div><div class="msg">Please, check, read and merge: <a href="https://github.com/status-im/docs.status.im/pull/26">https://github.com/status-im/docs.status.im/pull/26</a>
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This PR contains the updated information about the build process (also adds version 0.0.3 of documentation and modifies .gitignore a bit)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 07:55</div><div class="msg">Now I am going to check the yarn PR I submitted before (yes, I've read your comments)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 08:46</div><div class="msg">@jeluard @sergii <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/4919">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/4919</a> i want to merge this one and finish him today, don't see any reason to wait more</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 08:47</div><div class="msg">Isn't pacamara supposed to do something?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 08:54</div><div class="msg">yes, but it can take long time, because looks like he doesn't test, i'm waiting this branch will be merged to finish other tasks, and i want to refactor little bit this one, would be great to finish all this browser stuff today wdyt? i think pacamara will not upset</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 08:54</div><div class="msg">:+1:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 08:54</div><div class="msg">@sergii WDYT?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285383092772_62dfbe80e57ef8940bb7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">sergii</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 08:59</div><div class="msg">Sure!
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At the end browser history is not flushed completely on app restart but the last visited page kept.
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I?m fine to merge it (just let me create another build and do a quick check it once more).</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 08:59</div><div class="msg">:+1: :rocket:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 09:00</div><div class="msg">And make sure we have a new GH for the extra bit left</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 10:14</div><div class="msg">@sergii any updates ?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285383092772_62dfbe80e57ef8940bb7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">sergii</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 10:15</div><div class="msg">Yes! I?m writing a ?good-to-go? comment now.
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Two issues will go separately in GH</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 10:26</div><div class="msg">/kudos @andrey for helping a 3rd party contributor improve our DApp browser! (#4919)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 10:51</div><div class="msg">```
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npm install
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Enter passphrase for key .....
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is it something known in latest develop?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 10:54</div><div class="msg">@jeluard @alwx?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 10:56</div><div class="msg">Not aware. Build changes haven't been merged yet</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 10:57</div><div class="msg">some changes have been merged</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 10:59</div><div class="msg">it appears after develop update</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 11:00</div><div class="msg">:thinking_face: <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/commit/f6f799c86bc0f6679663a9ed02149b336c0cd9a7">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/commit/f6f799c86bc0f6679663a9ed02149b336c0cd9a7</a> ?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 11:00</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/commit/2b6ee450ae34bd21961d32d3e80225f106547400">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/commit/2b6ee450ae34bd21961d32d3e80225f106547400</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 11:01</div><div class="msg">That's old</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 11:01</div><div class="msg">maybe because `git@` ?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 11:01</div><div class="msg">@alwx any thoughts?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 11:06</div><div class="msg">yes, reverted it locally and it works</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 11:07</div><div class="msg">I guess you simply have to add your key to ssh-agent</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 11:07</div><div class="msg">@andrey Worth trying with <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/5056">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/5056</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 11:08</div><div class="msg">i need to finish that browser finally</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 11:08</div><div class="msg">ssh-add ~/.ssh/id_rsa</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 11:09</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21095054/ssh-key-still-asking-for-password-and-passphrase">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21095054/ssh-key-still-asking-for-password-and-passphrase</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 11:13</div><div class="msg">what was the purpose fort his change?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 11:14</div><div class="msg">Fix npm</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 11:14</div><div class="msg">With the other change, we will migrate to yarn</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 11:15</div><div class="msg">i mean how adding git@ fixed npm? it broke it for me :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 11:16</div><div class="msg">nodejs magic</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 11:17</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2gp98t">https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2gp98t</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 11:19</div><div class="msg">This site can't provide a secure connection</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 12:02</div><div class="msg">it's right, but for some reason npm 9 hangs when you use another format for deps; however, I cannot explain it, just some magic</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 12:02</div><div class="msg">but it didn't break it for you anyway</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 12:02</div><div class="msg">there is an explanation why it happens in stackoverflow thread</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-09 12:10</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://github.com/status-im/docs.status.im/pull/31">https://github.com/status-im/docs.status.im/pull/31</a>
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(cc @jeluard)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-09 12:25</div><div class="msg">@alwx Added some comments</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-09 12:27</div><div class="msg">@alwx Is this needed ? <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/4993#issuecomment-401353131">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/4993#issuecomment-401353131</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-09 12:29</div><div class="msg">yes, but this is the standard way of installing android sdk
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however, it's probably better to mention just to avoid questions</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-09 12:29</div><div class="msg">I will add it</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-07-09 15:25</div><div class="msg">@alwx following your latest & greatest Build Status directions, and so far, so good! I didn't have any of the dependencies installed, so chose all the latest versions. When it came to web3, that meant 1.0.0 beta 2?is that something we need to be specific about?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-09 15:37</div><div class="msg">Oh it's certainly an issue that you have to select versions.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-09 15:38</div><div class="msg">@alwx did you make progress on the yarn support?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-07-09 15:40</div><div class="msg">Good to know. :+1: In any case, I finally see "Setup complete!" :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-09 15:41</div><div class="msg">Not that bad! :grin:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-09 15:46</div><div class="msg">I did. However, still checking and making sure it works. Will try to commit later today :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-09 15:49</div><div class="msg">That would be great!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 07:24</div><div class="msg">Morning @alwx! Please take a look at <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/5109">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/5109</a> ASAP.
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Didn't realize that but in develop I'm being asked to select dependencies versions too.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:00</div><div class="msg">done</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:02</div><div class="msg">however, still cannot understand what?s the problem and why devs want to change it</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:02</div><div class="msg">It triggers yarn asking versions of those.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:03</div><div class="msg">Was this change necessary for fixing npm?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:05</div><div class="msg">well, I checked it 5 mins ago, it doesn?t ask</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:05</div><div class="msg">It does for me and bunch of others</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:05</div><div class="msg">:man-shrugging:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:06</div><div class="msg">Maybe you shave some npm cache around</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:06</div><div class="msg">@yenda Can we merge this right away? Need to go through test?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:06</div><div class="msg">The problem is that it asks for ssh keys which is usnecessary for docker containers and CI clusters</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:07</div><div class="msg">I'd say we can merge right away</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:07</div><div class="msg">Ok go for it :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:11</div><div class="msg">@yenda @alwx Which version is resolved when using those git deps? Latest? Don't we want to pin a version (commit) ?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:13</div><div class="msg">yes, latest (in most cases)
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well, in some cases we use a specific commit instead, but it's not that important for packages like `<a href="http://github.com/status-im/react-native-http-bridge">http://github.com/status-im/react-native-http-bridge</a>`</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:13</div><div class="msg">however, we should think about it anyway</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:14</div><div class="msg">@jeluard I think you are talking about a different problem that is not solved here</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:14</div><div class="msg">asking for versions? maybe</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:15</div><div class="msg">My latest comment is about build stability, not yarn asking for versions</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:15</div><div class="msg">Yes the versions are pinned in the package.lock</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:15</div><div class="msg">But the package.json should refer to a commit hash if we
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want it to pin the version for yarn as well</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:16</div><div class="msg">I don't think it removes the need to pin a version in package.json. Most people will ignore changes to lock file</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:16</div><div class="msg">Not sure what the best practice is here</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:17</div><div class="msg">Pinning in package.json is better</div></div></div><br/>
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Couldn't find any versions for "bignumber.js" that matches "git@github.com:status-im/bignumber.js.git"
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? Please choose a version of "bignumber.js" from this list: (Use arrow keys)
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:24</div><div class="msg">I will check one more time how it works with different npm versions and different machines, but everything was fine on my machine 15 minutes ago (if using yarn)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:26</div><div class="msg">Forget npm, yarn sounds much better.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:26</div><div class="msg">Maybe you can revisit <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/5056">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/5056</a> once @yenda PR is merged</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:29</div><div class="msg">yes, I already started doing it :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:30</div><div class="msg">Just merged the PR</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:32</div><div class="msg">:+1:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:32</div><div class="msg">That fixed the issue I had</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-13 16:01</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/5056">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/5056</a>
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updated this PR</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-13 16:11</div><div class="msg">Nice! So everything good?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-13 16:43</div><div class="msg">yes</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-13 16:44</div><div class="msg">:fingers-crossed:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-16 07:54</div><div class="msg">@alwx I added some comments to your PR. Looks almost good but I have some errors when running `make setup` the first time fro android.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-16 07:55</div><div class="msg">Also wondering if we can drop `re-natal` altogether.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-16 07:56</div><div class="msg">oh okay</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-16 07:56</div><div class="msg">maybe that's also the reason of jenkins issues</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-16 07:56</div><div class="msg">re-natal can be removed, I think. will start checking in 5 mins</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-16 08:25</div><div class="msg">@alwx You can see the error here: <a href="https://jenkins.status.im/blue/organizations/jenkins/status-react%2Fpull%20requests/detail/PR-5056/5/pipeline">https://jenkins.status.im/blue/organizations/jenkins/status-react%2Fpull%20requests/detail/PR-5056/5/pipeline</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-16 08:25</div><div class="msg">Got some variations of the same error, at least during first run</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-16 08:33</div><div class="msg">weird</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-17 07:25</div><div class="msg">Morning @alwx! Could you make some progress on the yarn PR?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-17 07:43</div><div class="msg">Would like to say yes, but no :disappointed: Still haven't figured out what?s wrong with Jenkins (and the problem is more or less similar to the one @andreap had)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-17 07:47</div><div class="msg">:sadpanda:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-17 07:47</div><div class="msg">So I guess you could not try to remove re-natal</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-17 07:56</div><div class="msg">no, but today I am going to work only on this issue. hope to come to results soon</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-17 07:56</div><div class="msg">:muscle:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-07-17 08:18</div><div class="msg">:muscle::skin-tone-3::muscle::skin-tone-3::muscle::skin-tone-3:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-17 12:30</div><div class="msg">do we need `run-ios.sh` script? what is it for? does anybody use it?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-17 12:31</div><div class="msg">@roman?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-08-27/423671855091_1b4f90cfbdd6a3ee2b6f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">roman</div><div class="time">2018-07-17 12:35</div><div class="msg">no i don't, i have a local one :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-17 12:35</div><div class="msg">I think you will need to change it soon</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-17 12:36</div><div class="msg">because your script probably uses re-natal</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-08-27/423671855091_1b4f90cfbdd6a3ee2b6f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">roman</div><div class="time">2018-07-17 12:36</div><div class="msg">yeah, will do</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-17 17:36</div><div class="msg"><!channel>, check, please: <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/5209">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/5209</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-07-17 18:57</div><div class="msg">@rachel @alwx I remember you (Rachel) asked for the examples of good pages/docs for building process, and I just stumbled upon Qt for Webassembly build page, and I think it fits well into this description.
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It's short (~2 screen pages), concise and readable, has mostly relevant information (i.e. versions/branches to use, "known-good" revision of tooling, etc), clear steps (Getting the code -> Building Qt -> Building Apps, Known issues). I also like that it shows that basically the building steps should be just a single command :slightly_smiling_face:
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So maybe it helps for some inspiration for our docs, check it out.
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<a href="https://wiki.qt.io/Qt_for_WebAssembly">https://wiki.qt.io/Qt_for_WebAssembly</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-07-17 19:04</div><div class="msg">Actually Trolltech/Qt docs always have been of extremely good quality.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-07-18 08:15</div><div class="msg">Thanks @divan :slightly_smiling_face: Latest version of our own build guide is looking like this: <a href="https://docs-staging.status.im/docs/build_status.html">https://docs-staging.status.im/docs/build_status.html</a> - let us know if you have feedback!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-18 08:58</div><div class="msg">I think the biggest problem and the biggest difference is that our process is much more complicated ? for example, it requires you to set up Android development environment (which is not the easiest thing to do) if you want to run Android app.
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At least the current version follows more or less the same structure ? we have ?Getting code?, ?Building?, ?Running? and ?Troubleshooting?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-07-18 09:29</div><div class="msg">Oh wow. This doc is order of magnitude better than old one. Great job!!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-07-18 09:30</div><div class="msg">As for the Android SDK, it's actually possible to automate installation as well. I was doing this in docker image.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-07-18 09:31</div><div class="msg">I really love how "Edit" button forwards to the internal Github Markdown editor. That's awesome.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-18 12:18</div><div class="msg">@jeluard I've updated it: <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/5209">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/5209</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-18 13:07</div><div class="msg">Nice! So we don't need lein at all now?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-18 13:08</div><div class="msg">I think it's still used in a bunch of places, but maybe we can also remove it</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-18 13:08</div><div class="msg">however, let?s keep this PR simple and dedicated to one thing :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-18 13:11</div><div class="msg">Sure :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-18 13:11</div><div class="msg">Do we need doc changes to reflect those?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-18 14:42</div><div class="msg">@alwx Shall we go ahead and just merge it?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-18 14:45</div><div class="msg">yep, let?s do this!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-18 14:54</div><div class="msg">great! You can go ahead then!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 07:59</div><div class="msg">Merged this PR.
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Also spent some time investigating the yarn issue. Was checking build.gradle in app directory and trying to understand what?s happening there, but without any big luck ? found that most of the code in `android/app/react.gradle` is not used and some gradle files can be simplified, but not sure if it will solve the issue.
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Will take a closer look later today, but I will mostly be unavailable today.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 10:52</div><div class="msg">@jeluard @andrey did we already have a discussion on upgrading web3 to 1.0 ?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 10:52</div><div class="msg">no</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 11:22</div><div class="msg">Which one? Dapps one?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 11:29</div><div class="msg">@jeluard I thought the one used by status and the one injected in dapps was the same ? if not then it simplifies the discussion, the dapp one can wait for when dapps work with it. The thing is web3 1.0 introduces promises which replaces polling</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 11:49</div><div class="msg">is it possible from go side to support both?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 13:25</div><div class="msg">We should allow end user to control the injected one</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 13:25</div><div class="msg">Our internal one we could almost drop it and do things ourselves..</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 13:34</div><div class="msg">yes please! One of the biggest complaints in the ETHPrize stuff was that web3 sucks and is only maintained (if at all) by Florian and he's busy with a bunch of other things as well. There is ethers.js too and that is really nice, but writing our own, OSS alternative would be a huge win... #JustSaying</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 13:47</div><div class="msg">@cryptowanderer which version of web3 were they using ? 0.X or 1.0 ?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 13:47</div><div class="msg">they are much different, promises and events listening in web3 1.0 are changing a lot of things</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 13:48</div><div class="msg">also the current plan for chat would be to extend web3 with our own methods for chat related stuff so that third party developpers can use it</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 13:56</div><div class="msg">People bitch most often about the upgrade path from 0.20 to 1.0.0-beta, which is a shit show.
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Some gritted their teeth and upgraded, some gave up and are sticking to 0.20 for the moment. Not exactly clear what the breakdown is, but it seems like around ~70% upgraded (and are running into problems constantly) and ~30% stuck with 0.20 and are feeling limited in what they can do with it. The EF is also looking at funding ethers.js through Gitcoin or some other platform, just for even more context</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:05</div><div class="msg">@yenda are you still going to make an intro in web3 1.0?
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We need to understand what else has been added, to make sure our Jail handles it properly. I'm not sure promises are supported even (they should, but I'm not sure it's been tested/verified)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:06</div><div class="msg">@cryptowanderer what is the EF ?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:06</div><div class="msg">As for the breaking API, that's one of the biggest pain-points for me with JS ecosystem ? breaking things every now and then is considered OK, without realizing that it wreaks havoc in pretty much every project, knowledge source and developers mental models.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:06</div><div class="msg">@divan yes</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:14</div><div class="msg">@divan our Jail ?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:14</div><div class="msg">status-go/Jail</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:16</div><div class="msg">why do we need it?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:18</div><div class="msg">aren't we jaling in jsc now ?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:18</div><div class="msg">o_O</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:20</div><div class="msg">yes, long time, but also @janherich working on moving commands to status react, and we don't need jsc anymore</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:20</div><div class="msg">@andrey I assumed dApps JS code is executed in Jail, no?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:20</div><div class="msg">no, in webview component</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:21</div><div class="msg">That's like the same for me :smile:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:21</div><div class="msg">We open dApps in WebView component?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:21</div><div class="msg">yes</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:21</div><div class="msg">So... what about JSC and "we don't need JSC anymore"?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:22</div><div class="msg">If we can remove jail from status-go and otto and related stuff, I'd be more than happy.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:23</div><div class="msg">i thought we did this long time ago :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:23</div><div class="msg">No.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:23</div><div class="msg">@janherich could provide more info about "we don't need JSC anymore"</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:23</div><div class="msg">Can anyone shed a light on JSC?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:24</div><div class="msg">cc @adamb and @romanmaybe</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:25</div><div class="msg">we have console and commands in chat, their code executed in JSC, we decided to remove console ,because i moved faucet to Status Test Dapp, and @janherich working on moving /send /receive commands to clojure</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:26</div><div class="msg">Great. I wasn't aware of this.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:26</div><div class="msg">Let's wait for Jan to elaborate on this.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-07-24/217825278711_78582e61a53927136266_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">adamb</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:39</div><div class="msg">Yeah, status-go?s jail written in otto is not used. I like the idea of removing JSC as well :+1:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/8f5d17c2210ba9813f6612330fc0fc66.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0014-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">janherich</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:39</div><div class="msg">Sorry guys I?m on call, so I noticed my name late.
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But yes, it's generally exactly as @andrey said, Jail/JSC environment is something which was only ever used for chat-bot code execution</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-07-24/217825278711_78582e61a53927136266_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">adamb</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:40</div><div class="msg">I believe that web3 1.0 and 0.20 are not compatible. Also, I have seen once a comment that 1.0 is not audited (not sure if 0.20 was :D) and until then is not recommended for production</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/8f5d17c2210ba9813f6612330fc0fc66.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0014-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">janherich</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:40</div><div class="msg">?normal? DApps are executed in the bridged WebView where sandboxed js environment is provided by the browser</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-07-24/217825278711_78582e61a53927136266_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">adamb</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:41</div><div class="msg">at the same time, web3 is just a convenience utility to make HTTPS (or WS or whatever) calls</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:58</div><div class="msg">Awesome, thanks!
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Can we remove jail also from status-react code then?
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Because grepping through the react code and seeing "jail" in a lot of places, made me jump to conclusion that it is used.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-08-27/423671855091_1b4f90cfbdd6a3ee2b6f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">roman</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 14:59</div><div class="msg">@divan i?ll file PR tomorrow</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-08-27/423671855091_1b4f90cfbdd6a3ee2b6f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">roman</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 15:02</div><div class="msg">ok, or after moving commands to clojure side, idk if it has been done</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/8f5d17c2210ba9813f6612330fc0fc66.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0014-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">janherich</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 15:07</div><div class="msg">@roman I will do in in scope of my PR</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-08-27/423671855091_1b4f90cfbdd6a3ee2b6f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">roman</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 15:07</div><div class="msg">even better :smile:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/8f5d17c2210ba9813f6612330fc0fc66.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0014-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">janherich</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 15:07</div><div class="msg">Or rather, it's almost done :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 15:09</div><div class="msg">@divan or @adamb so I guess you can do the same and remove ottovm on go side</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 15:09</div><div class="msg">Halfway done.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 15:09</div><div class="msg">I was waiting for this day like 10 months</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 15:10</div><div class="msg">here it is :smile:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-07-19 15:31</div><div class="msg">+15 ?7,512 :slightly_smiling_face:
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<a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-go/pull/1106">https://github.com/status-im/status-go/pull/1106</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 07:10</div><div class="msg">`yarn` is still a problem (haven't worked during the weekend so nothing really changed). I will take a look for a couple of hours today, but in the worst case I think we can simply skip if for now ? it's not really a required thing, devs can still use npm.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 07:11</div><div class="msg">Hey @alwx! Makes sense. Let's give it a couple extra hours and if it doesn't work , move on !</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 07:40</div><div class="msg">@alwx @jeluard is the plan to move on to #3631 next?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 07:47</div><div class="msg">@alwx One thing we want to make sure is that <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/2937">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/2937</a> is solved, even if we stick to npm</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 08:04</div><div class="msg">@rachel Docker support would be nice for straightforward ipa/apk generation indeed. Could even simplify our build process. As I understand some are considering alternatives to Jenkins, it might make sense to bundle both tasks?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 08:05</div><div class="msg">@rachel Restoring the status CLI is probably something that @alwx could look at in the meantime?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 08:58</div><div class="msg">Cool, let's see if we can include the build process in a Jenkins discussion. Agreed on CLI.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 09:45</div><div class="msg">@rachel what about <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/4380">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/4380</a> i can see it in next column and assigned on @alwx</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 09:45</div><div class="msg">That'd be great as well</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 09:46</div><div class="msg">I'd love to have that fixed for next release</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 09:46</div><div class="msg">No one seemed to notice it during user testing, they just ignored it?but it wasn't clear to them what it meant</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 09:54</div><div class="msg">ok i'll take it then</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 10:24</div><div class="msg">> jeluard @rachel Restoring the status CLI is probably something that @alwx could look at in the meantime?
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yes! :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 10:26</div><div class="msg">yes, I think it would be nice to make sure docker works and update the existing dockerfiles, so I will take a look at #3631</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 10:27</div><div class="msg">If it is a simple thing makes sense!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 10:27</div><div class="msg">CLI is higher prio though so would make sense to start some brainstorming session.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 10:27</div><div class="msg">Maybe post a `discuss` page after to involve the community?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:37</div><div class="msg">where are the cli stories, by the way?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:38</div><div class="msg">@jeluard you probably know!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:38</div><div class="msg">Indeed I know! There is none!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:39</div><div class="msg">I guess we want to add the minimal bits required to make sure it's easy to test/debug a DApp from the comfort of your command line</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:40</div><div class="msg">We probably have all already in status, just not doable from CLI yet.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:40</div><div class="msg">So things like changing the chain used by status, open a DAppp, .. on a real phone</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:41</div><div class="msg">What else could be needed? @alwx @andrey</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:43</div><div class="msg">most developers work with testrpc, it would be super helpful command to create all accounts from testrpc in status and connect them to this network, but one small problem , we can generate only first account from mnemonic, so we need help from @andreaf to generate all accounts</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:44</div><div class="msg">I think devs actually have their own chain running on their localhost</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:44</div><div class="msg">Things like ganache</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:44</div><div class="msg">it was possible to do testing using <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-dev-cli">https://github.com/status-im/status-dev-cli</a>, but not sure if it's still working</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:44</div><div class="msg">yes, ganache is UI for testrpc</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:44</div><div class="msg">Ah right I understood testnet. Well this part is handled by embark AFAIK</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:45</div><div class="msg">yes, so you run testrpc (ganache) and there you have 10 accounts, but you can't use them in status, so this command will help a lot!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:46</div><div class="msg">Ah so creating matching status accounts?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:47</div><div class="msg">yes, and connect them to this testrpc network</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:48</div><div class="msg">currently you can recover manually only first account, then go to network setting, create custom network and connect, would be awesome to automatically recover all accounts and connect them to this networks using one command</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:48</div><div class="msg">Forget this, we need to restart from scratch</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:48</div><div class="msg">Preferably w/o the multicast dns part</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:50</div><div class="msg">Maybe using adb and ios equivalent to do the discovery?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:50</div><div class="msg">not sure if it's doable, but can check</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:50</div><div class="msg">it's doable using multicast dns, of course</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:50</div><div class="msg">but not with adb, I suppose</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:51</div><div class="msg">Sounds like the right time to investigate alternatives</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:51</div><div class="msg">Great time</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:51</div><div class="msg">Let's keep a list of those, then discuss with embark team</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:52</div><div class="msg">:+1:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:53</div><div class="msg">I will prepare my explorations for tomorrow?s sync</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:54</div><div class="msg">Great thanks!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-23/319521513136_d6db8eeb85a03cb7d705_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andreaf</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 15:00</div><div class="msg">I remember we were talking about this. so is it a matter of creating some test accounts from the same 12 words? can't we have multiple mnemonic phrases one for each account?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 15:13</div><div class="msg">no we can't because that's how testrpc works, it generates all accounts from one mnemonic</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-08-27/423671855091_1b4f90cfbdd6a3ee2b6f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">roman</div><div class="time">2018-07-24 08:32</div><div class="msg">as far as i understand `./scripts/run-osx real` doesn?t work in `develop`, right?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-24 10:40</div><div class="msg">cc @alwx</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-24 11:12</div><div class="msg">Hey @alwx! What's your conclusion about yarn?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-24 12:01</div><div class="msg">sorry, missed the today?s call :disappointed:
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1. decided to postpone `yarn`. I am a bit tired of it, and have no good ideas of what exactly leads to the build problem, so it's better to focus on something else
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2. regarding my investigation of possibilities to use `adb` to debug dapps: seems like it's only possible for `buildType: debug` which means that if we want to debug anything inside Status the Status itself should be marked as debuggable, which is not the case. Our previous approach was to run a web server, and simply send different requests from our cli app, and I think we can do more or less the same. But we can also discuss it first, of course.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-24 12:02</div><div class="msg">doesn?t work, right.
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there should be a separate story for desktop team if I remember our discussion correctly</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-24 12:20</div><div class="msg">Sounds good. Can you update the yarn issue ?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-24 12:20</div><div class="msg">Also what about <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/2937">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/2937</a> ? Can we close it?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-24 13:48</div><div class="msg">yes, I cannot reproduce #2937</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-24 14:46</div><div class="msg">@alwx Nice! Can you close it?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-24 14:46</div><div class="msg">yes, sure</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-24 16:04</div><div class="msg">Also can you resolve the following <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/5056">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/5056</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-24 16:05</div><div class="msg">And comment on this one if it still relevant: <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/2541">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/2541</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-25 08:14</div><div class="msg">hm what if we could build genymotion version in jenkins, most of issues can be done without native code or npm modules, changes only in cljs code, so imagine contributor could
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1) install genymotion
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2) install and run apk (version for genymotion)
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3) install lein and clojure
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4) run figwheel</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-25 08:15</div><div class="msg">and metro boundler</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-25 08:21</div><div class="msg">or we can use <a href="https://www.genymotion.com/cloud/">https://www.genymotion.com/cloud/</a> and devs can rent it for SNT (no) :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-25 08:22</div><div class="msg">Can you clarify what is a genymotion version ?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-25 08:23</div><div class="msg">builded with index.js configured for genymotion</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-25 08:23</div><div class="msg">ah ok</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-25 09:35</div><div class="msg">maybe this will be the way for dapps devs, because we can provide apk version with dev mode enabled, in that case devs could recover account with cli</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-25 10:15</div><div class="msg">Yes could be an option. We have a debug build too</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-25 12:42</div><div class="msg">yeah looks like i was wrong there is no genymotion version just debug version</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-25 12:43</div><div class="msg">so we need to build debug version every night and share it with devs</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-25 13:02</div><div class="msg">@jeluard ok, what?s the most important thing I should focus on now? Docker, cli, yarn, or something else?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-25 17:10</div><div class="msg">`status-cli`</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-25 17:10</div><div class="msg">Could you look at the proposal I shared?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-25 17:10</div><div class="msg">yarn and docker are not priorities</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 06:32</div><div class="msg">I looked at your proposal (<a href="https://gist.github.com/jeluard/7611c538887565a9c16429522bdeb8c5">https://gist.github.com/jeluard/7611c538887565a9c16429522bdeb8c5</a>). Isn?t it basically the same as we already have? :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 06:37</div><div class="msg">Well we don't have anything right now, it's not working anymore.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 06:37</div><div class="msg">The gist of it is similar (but smaller scope). But the devil is in the details :grin:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 06:38</div><div class="msg">Most of associated concepts have significantly evolved in Status.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 06:38</div><div class="msg">The one part I think we should detail is how we can have device discovery build on stock mobile stack tools (e.g. `adb`)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 06:58</div><div class="msg">We have status-cli in status-go/cmd/ as well. (We don't use it though). </div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 07:43</div><div class="msg">guys what do you think to build two more nightly versions, one for dapp developers - apk with debug enabled, and one for external contributors - apk metro bundler version , in that case we could recover account with cli, so dapp developers only need to run status, they don't need to recover account and enable dev mode</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 07:55</div><div class="msg">> Well we don't have anything right now, it's not working anymore.
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It just means that status-react needs to be fixed, there is almost nothing in status-dev-cli that needs to be changed then</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 07:56</div><div class="msg">because if we're going to use the same mechanism, status-dev-cli is just a very small app that sends request to a web server</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 07:56</div><div class="msg">and status itself is a web server</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 07:57</div><div class="msg">the discovery part is tricky, but it's probably the only thing that needs to be changed on status-dev-cli part</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 07:58</div><div class="msg">It's not clear to me that this part has not been removed during some refactoring. Also it might be an opportunity to have a cleaner design more adapted to the current codebase.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 07:59</div><div class="msg">Now the whole web server based logic sounds good and if we can reuse some of it the better!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 08:00</div><div class="msg">Sounds good in principles!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 08:00</div><div class="msg">So how many builds would that be? And how different?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 08:12</div><div class="msg">2 different version for different purposes
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1) for dapp developers - same as release but with debug (for `adb`) and dev mode enabled by default
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2) for external status contributors - version which requires metro bundler</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 08:15</div><div class="msg">Don't we already have a debug version built?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 08:16</div><div class="msg">The other one I am not sure I see the big picture</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 08:16</div><div class="msg">i'm not sure , where?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 08:16</div><div class="msg">We have a special debug build with special icon for sure, the nightly one</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 08:17</div><div class="msg">so we could enable dev mode in nightly?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 08:18</div><div class="msg">sounds interesting</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 08:18</div><div class="msg">I guess so?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 08:18</div><div class="msg">But we need to check with QA as they use this for testing</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 08:18</div><div class="msg">It might be a good idea to have one special for devs</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 08:35</div><div class="msg">@alwx Given your experience on the subject, what do you think about leading the refreshed `status-cli` ? Our main stakeholders for now are Embark team, status core DApp devs and external DApps devs.
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Feel free to reuse my early proposal and modify it.
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I was thinking you could:
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? have some call with Embark to make sure that fits their needs
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? post a proposal on <a href="http://discuss.status.im">http://discuss.status.im</a>
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? go wild and make it a reality :sunglasses:
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WDYT?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 08:50</div><div class="msg">yes, it's fine
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we can organize a call tomorrow or at any other day during the next week</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 09:00</div><div class="msg">Perfect! Can you organize the call?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 09:01</div><div class="msg">ok, I will do in a couple of hours</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 13:49</div><div class="msg">Hey! WDYT About these OKRS? What priorities for KRs would you like to see? Do these make sense?
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[P2] External teams rely on Status dev tools
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KR: New developer docs site is live with 3 sections complete
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KR: A new developer can follow the Build Status quick start to set up Status in 20 minutes or less
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KR: 2x external teams using an extension
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KR: 70% of DApps ?Optimized for Status?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 14:25</div><div class="msg">Looks great!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 14:26</div><div class="msg">I would say anything `extensions` is the obvious first priority? :sunglasses:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-27 06:38</div><div class="msg">@alwx I created an issue to track the CLI proposal progress: <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/5315">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/5315</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-29 08:37</div><div class="msg">:stuck_out_tongue:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-29 08:37</div><div class="msg">Put all prios as P2 priority for now, can adjust later</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-30 20:12</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://github.com/status-im/docs.status.im/pull/43">https://github.com/status-im/docs.status.im/pull/43</a>
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<a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/5340">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/5340</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-30 20:12</div><div class="msg">review & merge :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-31 06:15</div><div class="msg">@alwx WDYT about this: <a href="https://github.com/status-im/docs.status.im/pull/42/files">https://github.com/status-im/docs.status.im/pull/42/files</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-31 06:15</div><div class="msg">Could we update the setup script so that it is not necessary?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-31 06:17</div><div class="msg">Also we might need another pass at build steps one this is merged: <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/5304">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/5304</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-31 07:15</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://github.com/status-im/docs.status.im/pull/42">https://github.com/status-im/docs.status.im/pull/42</a> is not needed. Just because `make startdev-x-y` executes this script anyway</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-31 08:37</div><div class="msg">Will skip the sync today :disappointed: Have a scheduled appointment to IND (dutch immigration department), hope to finally get my residence permit.
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Update from my side: was working on buildscripts and docs, also started working on `status-dev-cli`. Will have a call with Iuri from Embark today (unfortunately, we had no luck to talk earlier) to discuss the requirements from their side.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-07-31 08:38</div><div class="msg">@rachel</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-07-31 09:05</div><div class="msg">Okay, no problem?let's touch base later on the cli needs</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-07-31 14:22</div><div class="msg">@iuri @ericmastro @jeluard @andrey @rachel I wrote a short little blurb for each of you for DevCon applications cause that was going to be annoying :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
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However, there are now some questions we'll need to answer together. Thread for those starts here and will move to a google doc shortly before I submit.
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1. Please describe how you place to facilitate this workshop including a high-level agenda.
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2. Do people need specific skills or knowledge in order to participate in your workshop?
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3. What's the ideal number of participants for your workshop? (1-10, 11-30, 31-50, 51-100, 100+)
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4. Please list what materials you will need for this workshop (projector, whiteboard, post-its, sharpies etc)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-10/345048961478_60c5a0cb079da69aa25c_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">ericmastro</div><div class="time">2018-07-31 14:22</div><div class="msg">has joined #core-developers</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-07-31 14:27</div><div class="msg">Thank you! Don't worry about me for the workshop, if I'm at Devcon, I think I'll just attend, right? But I will use that blurb for the presentation application...
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@ericmastro had probably 11-30 attendees at his workshop at DAPPCON, maybe a few more, and they weren't coding along. He had designed it, of course, so that everybody could. In the event that we do that again, I'd think we'd want a similar group size for this talk. Engagement > reach?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-07-31 14:32</div><div class="msg">Yeah, :heavy_plus_sign: for engagement > reach. Have put together my thoughts on this here: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ys6AbHc0MjRVLuCvXg9uzrHv2E5G3VpCdYJtT3WggaA/edit?usp=sharing">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ys6AbHc0MjRVLuCvXg9uzrHv2E5G3VpCdYJtT3WggaA/edit?usp=sharing</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-07-31 14:33</div><div class="msg">input very much appreciated</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-31 15:10</div><div class="msg">Looks good to me! I am wondering if we need to be that much people involved. Specifically I feel both Andrey and I are a bit redundant (what we should talk about is pretty thin).
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Don't we have higher chances of being selected if we are fewer?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-07-31 15:14</div><div class="msg">I'm not sure tbh... I initially thought having more people core there (5 is not too many) will show how committed we are to giving a great workshop...</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-31 15:41</div><div class="msg">One thing to consider too is that it means more free tickets $$$ for them to provide. Might make a difference when workshops will be picked.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-07-31 15:43</div><div class="msg">I can give a hand for sure if I'm around. Maybe worth mentioning? A number of status people will be attending and can provide assistance.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-07-31 15:53</div><div class="msg">Yeah, good point :+1:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-10/345048961478_60c5a0cb079da69aa25c_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">ericmastro</div><div class="time">2018-07-31 23:37</div><div class="msg">Cross-posting for reference. An idea is that maybe we could apply to teach several, technically progressive, workshops instead of cramming it all in to one? <a href="https://status-im.slack.com/archives/C9ANK23PA/p1533077477000029?thread_ts=1533028922.000097&cid=C9ANK23PA">https://status-im.slack.com/archives/C9ANK23PA/p1533077477000029?thread_ts=1533028922.000097&cid=C9ANK23PA</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-08-01 08:08</div><div class="msg">```
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Figwheel: Starting nREPL server on port: 7888
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WARNING: boolean? already refers to: #'clojure.core/boolean? in namespace: mranderson047.toolsanalyzerjvm.v0v6v9.toolsanalyzer.v0v6v7.clojure.tools.analyzer.utils, being replaced by: #'mranderson047.toolsanalyzerjvm.v0v6v9.toolsanalyzer.v0v6v7.clojure.tools.analyzer.utils/boolean?
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WARNING: boolean? already refers to: #'clojure.core/boolean? in namespace: mranderson047.toolsanalyzerjvm.v0v6v9.toolsanalyzer.v0v6v7.clojure.tools.analyzer, being replaced by: #'mranderson047.toolsanalyzerjvm.v0v6v9.toolsanalyzer.v0v6v7.clojure.tools.analyzer.utils/boolean?
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```</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-08-01 08:08</div><div class="msg">is it something known?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-08-01 08:12</div><div class="msg">i saw it too. Probably some kind of dependency mess.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-08-01 09:10</div><div class="msg">it is known</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-08-01 09:12</div><div class="msg">comes from refactor-nrepl <a href="https://github.com/clojure-emacs/refactor-nrepl/issues/205">https://github.com/clojure-emacs/refactor-nrepl/issues/205</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-08-01 09:13</div><div class="msg">it's not a big deal, we could use 2.4.0-SNAPSHOT if we really want to get rid of it, but SNAPSHOTS are not good for reproducible builds</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-08-01 09:21</div><div class="msg">thanks</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-08-02 08:48</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/5315">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/issues/5315</a>
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to be honest, I think we're wasting time here. let?s just use the existing `status-dev-cli` (it's basically just a JS app that sends requests to specified urls) and carefully re-implement the debugging functionality we had before, because now it's removed</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-08-02 08:53</div><div class="msg">@alwx Can you detail what do you mean by wasting time?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-08-02 08:54</div><div class="msg">Also not clear what debugging features you are talking about.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-08-02 08:55</div><div class="msg">we previously had a /debug command, and it was used to enter the debug mode</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-08-02 08:55</div><div class="msg">it simply started the web server</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-08-02 08:56</div><div class="msg">and this web server was processing different requests; all this functionality is removed now</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-08-02 08:56</div><div class="msg">We have dev mode from the app now, probably invalidates this</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-08-02 08:56</div><div class="msg">Web server parts sounds fine. Discovery has to be detailed probably</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-08-02 08:58</div><div class="msg">what was wrong with the discovery?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-08-02 08:58</div><div class="msg">What is mandatory for now is `open-dapp` and `switch-node`. So I would suggest to restore that first.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-08-02 08:59</div><div class="msg">It does not work and we don't want to add bonjour protocol in status just for this.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-08-02 09:00</div><div class="msg">It makes sense to dig alternatives before making a decision</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-08-02 09:00</div><div class="msg">how are you going to search for network services then? any suggestions of how to implement it without services announcing themselves?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-08-02 09:00</div><div class="msg">m</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-08-02 09:01</div><div class="msg">@alwx adb provides this already AFAIK</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-08-02 09:02</div><div class="msg">only for Android apps with `debuggable` flag</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-08-02 09:02</div><div class="msg">Could be an option worth considering</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-08-02 09:02</div><div class="msg">Can you write some docs with those alternatives and tradeoffs?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-08-02 09:04</div><div class="msg">yes
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but let's first implement web server, I think this part is more needed and relatively clear already </div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-08-02 15:54</div><div class="msg">Investigated the network discovery and other options we have. The results are here: <a href="https://gist.github.com/alwx/a911408984791e0e9a80d1ac4302443c">https://gist.github.com/alwx/a911408984791e0e9a80d1ac4302443c</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-08-02 16:20</div><div class="msg">Cool thanks for doing this!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-08-02 16:21</div><div class="msg">Actually option 1 might be good enough as a first step, provided we give some documentation</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-08-02 22:20</div><div class="msg">ok, amazing
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then I will start working on http server :muscle:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-09-12/240066984213_b35ca6f6b9658bf5cabb_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jonny.z</div><div class="time">2018-08-03 13:15</div><div class="msg">@roman you are in Kiev correct? We spoke with an event organizer from DappDev (Pavlo) yesterday regarding their upcoming hackathon/workshop as well as the Status Hackathon. There is an opportunity for co-promotion. Would you or any of the other local team members be interested in mentoring or hosting a Status Workshop?
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The event will be Sept 14-16</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-08-03 13:28</div><div class="msg">also maybe @andrey?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-08-27/423671855091_1b4f90cfbdd6a3ee2b6f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">roman</div><div class="time">2018-08-03 13:58</div><div class="msg">yes, i ?m going to be in Kyiv in September. I can help if necessary</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-09-12/240066984213_b35ca6f6b9658bf5cabb_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jonny.z</div><div class="time">2018-08-03 13:59</div><div class="msg">awesome! Ill let Pavlo know. Anyone else in Kyiv interested in mentoring hosting a workshop?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-08-27/423671855091_1b4f90cfbdd6a3ee2b6f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">roman</div><div class="time">2018-08-03 14:00</div><div class="msg">idk</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-08-27/423671855091_1b4f90cfbdd6a3ee2b6f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">roman</div><div class="time">2018-08-03 14:01</div><div class="msg">i know that we have one guy from research team who is based in Kyiv</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-09-12/240066984213_b35ca6f6b9658bf5cabb_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jonny.z</div><div class="time">2018-08-03 14:01</div><div class="msg">ok cool. Thanks Roman</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-08-27/423671855091_1b4f90cfbdd6a3ee2b6f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">roman</div><div class="time">2018-08-03 14:01</div><div class="msg">also @divan is around sometimes</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-08-03 14:12</div><div class="msg">I might be in Kiev these days, yes</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-09-12/240066984213_b35ca6f6b9658bf5cabb_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jonny.z</div><div class="time">2018-08-03 14:25</div><div class="msg">Great thanks guys. Ill connect via email now</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-06-01/375000796951_78d872be972af4441b52_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">exiledsurfer</div><div class="time">2018-08-06 10:03</div><div class="msg">tried to get a redeem code for status via testflight for my new ipad yesterday & the emails dont arrive ... there's a user in #general reporting the same problem</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-06-01/375000796951_78d872be972af4441b52_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">exiledsurfer</div><div class="time">2018-08-06 10:04</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://status-im.slack.com/archives/C5Z5NRYKS/p1533548520000091">https://status-im.slack.com/archives/C5Z5NRYKS/p1533548520000091</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-08-06 10:27</div><div class="msg">Hey @exiledsurfer, this channel is more related to how we can improve devs life with tooling. `general` is probably the right place to share that.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-08-07/411838218004_c7eba2c8e4f6b1a5ba77_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">graeme</div><div class="time">2018-08-06 10:32</div><div class="msg">has joined #core-developers</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-08-06 13:32</div><div class="msg">for some reason repl and metro bundler in same terminal work incorrect for me, i would prefer to run `repl` , `bundler` and `run-` commands separately</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-08-06 13:36</div><div class="msg">Sorry to hear that but I fear I have some issues too</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-08-06 13:36</div><div class="msg">Makes sense to at least have both options</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-08-07 10:33</div><div class="msg">Hey @alwx! How are things going with CLI ?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-08-07 10:35</div><div class="msg">Hmm I guess I will find out later on.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-08-08 17:24</div><div class="msg">Hasn't been much input here: <a href="https://discuss.status.im/t/optimised-for-status-developer-input/267">https://discuss.status.im/t/optimised-for-status-developer-input/267</a>. Any more thoughts on criteria for something like this?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-08-08 17:26</div><div class="msg">sorry, I am getting there at some stage :sweat_smile: Wanted the tech talk to be public too before I commented and need to get to India first obvs</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-10/345048961478_60c5a0cb079da69aa25c_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">ericmastro</div><div class="time">2018-08-08 21:19</div><div class="msg">@iuri</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-08-09 07:08</div><div class="msg">Hey @jeluard!
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Regarding CLI ? I integrated react-native-http-bridge, thus web server works again, but right now I have a small vacation to France, so I will finish what I've started a bit later. Officially the vacation is till the end of the next week, but more likely I will be back earlier.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-08-09 07:11</div><div class="msg">France?? Don't go there it's full of french!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-08-09 07:11</div><div class="msg">Where in France?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-08-09 07:12</div><div class="msg">Mostly Paris and places nearby :slightly_smiling_face: Closer to Belgian border</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-08-09 07:13</div><div class="msg">Nice! Enjoy!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-08-18 16:43</div><div class="msg">Finally returned back :slightly_smiling_face: Going to check what happened in the last two weeks and continue on Monday!</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-08-20 06:46</div><div class="msg">Welcome back Alex! Catch up with you in a bit</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-05-11/181684552369_66f21f8981bdb0f83bdd_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">cryptowanderer</div><div class="time">2018-08-20 07:27</div><div class="msg">Welcome home :wink: :heart:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-06-01/375000796951_78d872be972af4441b52_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">exiledsurfer</div><div class="time">2018-08-22 09:15</div><div class="msg">since we're now embedding townhall vids and slidedecks on ghost, @jonny.z asked me to do one for the core devs call; i cleaned up the format a bit, but if anyone wants to make any edits, just log into ghost and do it; would it be possible for future coredev calls to do a slidedeck instead of a hackMD doc for the agenda for future calls, for consistancy, so we could use the url for announcing social, and then add the notes, transcript after streaming, @oskarth?
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<a href="https://our.status.im/core-devs-call-2018-08-20/">https://our.status.im/core-devs-call-2018-08-20/</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-08-22 09:24</div><div class="msg">I'm trying to build `status-react` again, and I see some huge progress made to `make setup` stage handling all edge cases, but still can't make through this step.
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I'm not sure what's the issue exactly, because script doesn't stop on first error and keeps running, printing more errors (some more red and screaming than others) and warnings, so it might not be super evident. But the earliest error I can spot is this:
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node-pre-gyp ERR! Tried to download(404): <a href="https://static.realm.io/node-pre-gyp/2.3.3/realm-v2.3.3-node-v64-darwin-x64.tar.gz">https://static.realm.io/node-pre-gyp/2.3.3/realm-v2.3.3-node-v64-darwin-x64.tar.gz</a>
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node-pre-gyp ERR! Pre-built binaries not found for realm@2.3.3 and node@10.5.0 (node-v64 ABI, unknown) (falling back to source compile with node-gyp)
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node-pre-gyp ERR! Tried to download(undefined): <a href="https://static.realm.io/node-pre-gyp/2.3.3/realm-v2.3.3-node-v64-darwin-x64.tar.gz">https://static.realm.io/node-pre-gyp/2.3.3/realm-v2.3.3-node-v64-darwin-x64.tar.gz</a>
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node-pre-gyp ERR! Pre-built binaries not found for realm@2.3.3 and node@10.5.0 (node-v64 ABI, unknown) (falling back to source compile with node-gyp)
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Whole output is here: <a href="https://pastebin.com/N3Kc5BG9">https://pastebin.com/N3Kc5BG9</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-08-22 09:28</div><div class="msg">hm weird, but the link to realm is not valid anymore</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-08-22 09:28</div><div class="msg">(this one: <a href="https://static.realm.io/node-pre-gyp/2.3.3/realm-v2.3.3-node-v64-darwin-x64.tar.gz">https://static.realm.io/node-pre-gyp/2.3.3/realm-v2.3.3-node-v64-darwin-x64.tar.gz</a>)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-08-22 09:28</div><div class="msg">I'm on the latest `develop`. Should it be updated somewhere?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-08-22 09:44</div><div class="msg">I don't think it's our mistake, it's something guys from Realm did wrong :slightly_smiling_face: but I have to check before I will be able to answer your question ? maybe we need to update a version (which is a bit dangerous, but anyway)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3fbb10b8c7115b8c44459363fb6476cf.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0007-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">divan</div><div class="time">2018-08-22 09:46</div><div class="msg">ok, thanks. tbc I don't even know what Realm is )</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-08-22 11:02</div><div class="msg">hm, I think hackmd is probably better for live note taking? would rather keep workflow the way it is for now and focus on the content</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-08-22 11:02</div><div class="msg">it's a good idea though! to have it posted to Our</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-06-01/375000796951_78d872be972af4441b52_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">exiledsurfer</div><div class="time">2018-08-22 11:06</div><div class="msg">i'm just suggesting slides for the agenda, but note taking on hackMD which are then added to post.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-06-01/375000796951_78d872be972af4441b52_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">exiledsurfer</div><div class="time">2018-08-22 11:07</div><div class="msg">but, no worries, do whats most efficient for you :wrench:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-08-22 11:07</div><div class="msg">can we keep the workflow as it is now? with GH issue, I don't want to have to think about yet another thing when there are more high prio structural things to improve with these meetings</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-08-22 11:07</div><div class="msg">cheers</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-08-23 14:13</div><div class="msg">I'm still seeing this when running `make release-android` on `develop`. Is it supposed to still happen at this point?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-29/291837550193_7c75b6459537f373c8e1_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">igor680</div><div class="time">2018-08-23 14:20</div><div class="msg">is it on your local machine?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-08-23 14:20</div><div class="msg">yes</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-29/291837550193_7c75b6459537f373c8e1_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">igor680</div><div class="time">2018-08-23 14:20</div><div class="msg">something is cached somewhere :disappointed:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-08-23 14:21</div><div class="msg">will try building and bundling status-go locally</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-08-23 14:36</div><div class="msg">hmm, still happens if I build with local `status-go-local.aar` built from latest go `develop` :thinking_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-08-23 15:26</div><div class="msg">@adamb do you have any idea why I'm getting the error above even building and using local status-go which I know has the correct signature?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-07-24/217825278711_78582e61a53927136266_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">adamb</div><div class="time">2018-08-23 15:34</div><div class="msg">No idea but @dmitry.shulyak has a similar issue. I run it on iOS and it works fine. Doesn?t it suggest that it tries to call `GenerateConfig` with 2 params while the binding has 3?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-08-23 15:34</div><div class="msg">seems so</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-08-23 15:34</div><div class="msg">but the local android code has 3 params</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-07-24/217825278711_78582e61a53927136266_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">adamb</div><div class="time">2018-08-23 15:35</div><div class="msg">Right? RN does not cache anything?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-08-23 15:35</div><div class="msg">will git cleanup repo folder to make sure</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-08-24 04:12</div><div class="msg">Cross-post <a href="https://status-im.slack.com/archives/C9ANK23PA/p1535083921000100">https://status-im.slack.com/archives/C9ANK23PA/p1535083921000100</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-08-27 12:39</div><div class="msg">@jeluard I suppose we haven't decided yet what option is the best for us (at least in the beginning)
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<a href="https://gist.github.com/alwx/a911408984791e0e9a80d1ac4302443c">https://gist.github.com/alwx/a911408984791e0e9a80d1ac4302443c</a>
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do you have any opinion on that?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-08-27 12:41</div><div class="msg">Also curious about next steps. What needs to be done after we finish with cli, etc? What can I be useful for? (looking at extensions, is it a good idea to join you there?)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-08-27 13:11</div><div class="msg">@alwx I would say Option #1 for now. Then wait for feedback.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-08-27 13:12</div><div class="msg">Let's discuss that with Rachel in our call tomorrow?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-08-27 13:12</div><div class="msg">ok</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-08-27 13:14</div><div class="msg">@alwx have you had a chance to look at <a href="https://status-im.slack.com/archives/C8HQ9S0AH/p1534944954000100">https://status-im.slack.com/archives/C8HQ9S0AH/p1534944954000100</a> ?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-08-27 13:15</div><div class="msg">Only breifly.
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However, it works okay on both of my machines. Will try to make a better investigation after I finish the current task.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-08-30 21:43</div><div class="msg">The server for debugging is finally done. It?s here: <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/5680">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/5680</a>
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Updates were also made to `react-native-http-bridge`, the library we use to run the server on your device when ?Development mode? is switched on. I also prepared a nice description of this server and operations it supports: <a href="https://gist.github.com/alwx/51d2758a9d82b392c6f46eff2e34cde3">https://gist.github.com/alwx/51d2758a9d82b392c6f46eff2e34cde3</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-08-30 21:44</div><div class="msg">It took a while, but it was fun (especially working on Objective C code)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-08-30 21:45</div><div class="msg">And the coolest thing is that we can now easily extend this server :wink:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-08-30 22:09</div><div class="msg">Excellent. Reviving this thread then - <a href="https://status-im.slack.com/archives/C9ANK23PA/p1535198252000100">https://status-im.slack.com/archives/C9ANK23PA/p1535198252000100</a> :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-08-31 07:38</div><div class="msg">@rachel, I imagine it would make sense to move this gist to <a href="http://docs.status.im">http://docs.status.im</a>, right?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-08-31 07:40</div><div class="msg">btw, we should also create a <a href="https://docs.status.im/specifications/pfs/">https://docs.status.im/specifications/pfs/</a> page to host the upcoming PFS spec</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-08-31 07:52</div><div class="msg">`It runs only if Development mode (on Settings screen) is switched on;` it would be good to enable it for nightlies when app is running, in this case developers can just run status, and they don't need to interact with UI, they could create new account, switch network etc from cli</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-08-31 07:53</div><div class="msg">good idea, @andrey
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it requires to add all the functionality like the ability to create contacts from cli, but it's not difficult anyway</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-08-31 08:06</div><div class="msg">btw @alwx what about Status Desktop?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-08-31 09:25</div><div class="msg">it works only on Android & iOS now. if we want to make it work also on desktop, it will require some time, but it will be quite easy, I think</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-09-03 15:54</div><div class="msg">Updated the PR: <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/5680">https://github.com/status-im/status-react/pull/5680</a>
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(thanks @andrey for comments)</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-09-06 11:55</div><div class="msg">@adamb, @igor680 qq: anything against renaming `make statusgo` to `make statusd`? After all, that's the name of the output, and we already have others, such as mailserver-canary, bootnode, etc, so it would make it consistent
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It might be more trouble than it's worth, in terms of updating scripts, etc though</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-07-24/217825278711_78582e61a53927136266_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">adamb</div><div class="time">2018-09-06 12:06</div><div class="msg">Makes sense to me but yeah, it might require a few checks to change it in all places </div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-29/291837550193_7c75b6459537f373c8e1_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">igor680</div><div class="time">2018-09-06 12:38</div><div class="msg">:thumbsup: </div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-06-01/375000796951_78d872be972af4441b52_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">exiledsurfer</div><div class="time">2018-09-09 10:38</div><div class="msg">whats up with our mailservers?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-09-10 15:12</div><div class="msg"><!subteam^S9X6DHR1U|@go>, could you please review <a href="https://github.com/status-im/status-go/pull/1183">https://github.com/status-im/status-go/pull/1183</a>, as this is needed on the status-react repo for a PR being worked on?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-09-11 10:09</div><div class="msg">is it the channel for extensions discussions ?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-06-01/375000796951_78d872be972af4441b52_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">exiledsurfer</div><div class="time">2018-09-11 11:35</div><div class="msg">there's #core-extentsions for that :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-09-11 11:52</div><div class="msg">There?s cote-dapps for that</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-09-11 13:14</div><div class="msg">haha that's funny
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should we merge #core-extensions, #core-developers and #core-dapps? they all serve more or less the same purpose now</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-28/338213459126_9a2080e57364819a4d87_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andrey</div><div class="time">2018-09-11 13:25</div><div class="msg">yes we use mostly #core-dapps</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-09-11 14:18</div><div class="msg">Not a bad idea - #core-developers doesn?t see much use </div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-09-11 14:42</div><div class="msg">:+1::skin-tone-2: for closing this one</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-04-11/344678860515_64490607960ebf85ac4a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">alwx</div><div class="time">2018-09-11 15:08</div><div class="msg">:+1:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-07-05/394232370742_ad7884cfec10fe3457d9_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">ned</div><div class="time">2018-09-11 15:09</div><div class="msg">Oh no I was just about to write to you all :flushed:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-07-05/394232370742_ad7884cfec10fe3457d9_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">ned</div><div class="time">2018-09-11 15:11</div><div class="msg">Hello! So I wanted to cross pollinate from design with a few thoughts of where I think design will plan an exploration (not for the web refresh). I have spoken to @jeluard @oskarth and @rachel more extensively around this idea of our own visual language that becomes scalable. What I am proposing to investigate with your input, is creating a toolkit or visual OS for us, similarly to what you would find here: <a href="https://facebook.design/toolsandresources/">https://facebook.design/toolsandresources/</a>
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This establishes a base language of visual elements that can then be used, customized, distributed, etc. I believe the best approach is to first create this language together and then build everything using it (products, desktop, app, etc) and enabling others to learn and use it. The process being the goal of the design.
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I understand more details about extensions can help inform this, but just in this research and planning phase are there any ideas that come to mind that could help my thinking? (i.e. Icons that describe new security connects) things you don't have in a design language that would be very useful if you had your own?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-09-11 15:22</div><div class="msg">Do you mind reposting in #core-dapps @ned? We?re all stoked about this topic </div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-07-05/394232370742_ad7884cfec10fe3457d9_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">ned</div><div class="time">2018-09-11 15:22</div><div class="msg">Yes I do it. :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-09-11 20:24</div><div class="msg">looks like you have the power to archive :facepunch::skin-tone-3:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-09-12 06:10</div><div class="msg">Do I? Can't find how to do this.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-09-12 07:54</div><div class="msg">Maybe not?just assuming since you're the channel creator :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2674ec9e762bcd011c9542c1b787ce13.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0019-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jeluard</div><div class="time">2018-09-12 07:59</div><div class="msg">@oskarth Could you archive this channel?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-09-12 09:03</div><div class="msg">@pedro archived the channel</div></div></div><br/>
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