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</style><div class="messages"><div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-06-27 09:05</div><div class="msg">has joined #events-basel</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-06-27 09:16</div><div class="msg">Hey there, the information about the meetup seems to be a bit dispersed, so thought I'd start aggregating it in this channel.</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-06-27 09:17</div><div class="msg">Current status: <a href="https://status-im.slack.com/archives/CA7AX3CKF/p1529683944000339?thread_ts=1529489176.000085&amp;cid=CA7AX3CKF">https://status-im.slack.com/archives/CA7AX3CKF/p1529683944000339?thread_ts=1529489176.000085&amp;cid=CA7AX3CKF</a></div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-06-27 09:23</div><div class="msg">has joined #events-basel</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-06-27 09:48</div><div class="msg">So no hotel defined yet?</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-06/324554464353_18f48763243f656a4978_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">patrick771</div><div class="time">2018-06-27 10:01</div><div class="msg">Thanks for setting this up this @pedro and for everyone?s patience here. On accommodations, after @rajanie and I tried multiple hotels in Basel to coordinate a room block + conference room in the hotel, everything was over budget. So we?ve found a coworking space near old / center part of town called Nookbox <a href="https://www.nookbox.ch/coworking/">https://www.nookbox.ch/coworking/</a>. We?ve booked out their conference room for three days and we may actually just get the whole coworking space since it's not that large. Definitely more in our budget range :wink:
Recommend that everyone finds a hotel in the price range of 150-250 per night. There are some suggested hotels within ~10 min walk in the spreadsheet: <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_kitoRIgtQZfORyv_xddRPWxypRnyilWJG7z9qV1MHM/edit#gid=1599681121">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_kitoRIgtQZfORyv_xddRPWxypRnyilWJG7z9qV1MHM/edit#gid=1599681121</a>
We tried to get a room block at the Radisson Blu which is a 5 min walk away but the cheaper option is just to book individuals directly. So we know there are 9 available rooms if you want to jump on it. Request: can everyone update the spreadsheet with their hotel and flight/train arrival times once you have all the details in place? Many thanks!</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-08-06/411178710468_720d28ab1ef2ed6c3c74_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rajanie</div><div class="time">2018-06-27 10:01</div><div class="msg">has joined #events-basel</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-06-27 10:19</div><div class="msg">Awesome! And the dates are still next Weds-Friday, 4-6?</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-08-06/411178710468_720d28ab1ef2ed6c3c74_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rajanie</div><div class="time">2018-06-27 10:21</div><div class="msg">yes July 4 - July 6</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-06-27 10:21</div><div class="msg">Cool thanks @rajanie</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-06-27 17:21</div><div class="msg">@pedro set the channel topic: <a href="https://status-im.slack.com/files/U8DN8BUKG/FB3RLEHR9/Chat_risk_management_Product_principles_meetup_Switzerland">https://status-im.slack.com/files/U8DN8BUKG/FB3RLEHR9/Chat_risk_management_Product_principles_meetup_Switzerland</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-06/310412231971_aab33885aa55d16e4740_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">arnetheduck.slack</div><div class="time">2018-06-27 19:14</div><div class="msg">when we started chatting about this meetup with @hester, there were three large themes that I had seen being talked about and wanted to go over from a research and technology point of view - as such, I've started looking for interesting reading material to prepare and for the topics in general - started is key here and I'd love to share this prep work with you so we can spread the joy and learn from each other at the event, and later:
* risk - it's popular in infosec to start with assessing what we're protecting ourselves against and I'd like to suggest we look into a formal methodology as a way to guide our discussions and workshops. STRIDE seems to be just the thing. this is the kind of risks @hester kicked off with the Risk Matrix work and a great topic for one of the days in Basel - study compendium is here: <a href="https://hackmd.io/BcxhsyPoREaqmCLnO29CuA#">https://hackmd.io/BcxhsyPoREaqmCLnO29CuA#</a>
* secure messaging - this part is about technologies that provide security through cryptography and similar means, but also about user interface to prevent their misuse - the human is after all usually the weakest link in all these systems, so apart from looking into stuff like forward secrecy etc, there's also the aspect of UX allowances and trade offs - you've all seen it before, the secure messaging compendium: <a href="https://hackmd.io/2MDws3OvSZ2wz-ULI6tpLQ?both#">https://hackmd.io/2MDws3OvSZ2wz-ULI6tpLQ?both#</a>
* finally, we a category of work that can be summarized as coercion resistance. A sec researcher I've been following lately sums it up beautifully in this essay: <a href="https://dymaxion.org/essays/coercionresistantdesign.html">https://dymaxion.org/essays/coercionresistantdesign.html</a> - this is where we talk about distribution, mesh networking but also other important topics such as organizational decentralization (code, people, etc) and the like - <a href="https://hackmd.io/mMXVubGDQaWjCf6etQ6nuA#">https://hackmd.io/mMXVubGDQaWjCf6etQ6nuA#</a>
each of these areas deserves a lot of dedication, and as can be seen in our beautifully growing discussion forum, there's plenty of buzz around them - check that out first and make sure to contribute to the discussion there (<a href="https://discuss.status.im">https://discuss.status.im</a>)!
if you'd like to work with me as curator of any or all of these compendiums, or the areas that they focus on, get in touch, or just go ahead and start editing - no tokens or identity needed yet! even the three themes themselves will likely change in the future!</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-06/310412231971_aab33885aa55d16e4740_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">arnetheduck.slack</div><div class="time">2018-06-27 19:17</div><div class="msg">also, as can be seen from the agenda of the meeting, the thinking has evolved since then, and the meetup will encompass more than just this! I also have it from a reliable source that there will be at least one presentation during the meeting - don't be shy! studied or thought of something interesting lately? use the occasion to do a little minispeech on the topic!</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-06-28 07:55</div><div class="msg">So happy to come back from vacation and see these preparations in progress! Big thank you to @patrick771 and @rajanie for coordinating logistics:pray:
Excellent idea to kick off with sharing our collective knowledge @arnetheduck.slack. I'll update the agenda so we have time for presentations and will personally look into risk management frameworks and will prepare templates for us to work of.</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-06-28 08:51</div><div class="msg">@patrick771 @hester are we having a morning kick-off on the 4th? do we need to arrive on the 3rd?</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-06/324554464353_18f48763243f656a4978_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">patrick771</div><div class="time">2018-06-28 09:05</div><div class="msg">A morning kickoff makes sense on the 4th as I think we have some folks arriving on the evening of the 3rd. We could start a little later ? say 10 or 11 to give people a chance to arrive and settle. E.g., @yenda will have just arrived on a night train from Berlin.</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-06-28 09:17</div><div class="msg">I may take an early flight on the 4th to accommodate something else on the 3rd, so that would be great. </div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-06-28 09:43</div><div class="msg">If you are coming from Berlin take the night train :) </div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-06-28 09:45</div><div class="msg">I?m planning on training it in on the morning of the 4th as well, just not from as far as Berlin! </div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-06-28 09:48</div><div class="msg">How did you decide on that?!</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-29/291837550193_7c75b6459537f373c8e1_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">igor680</div><div class="time">2018-06-28 09:50</div><div class="msg">I arrive 3rd in the evening.</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-06-28 10:20</div><div class="msg">To take the train ? Because it's convenient compared to airport, and I took the plane too much over the past 12 month, I want to limit my flying hours when possible to lower the probability of being in a crash :D</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-07-31/220671542518_0d49983291e646e395f0_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">nastya</div><div class="time">2018-06-28 10:30</div><div class="msg">same for me, arriving on 3d</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-06-28 10:58</div><div class="msg">Safety first!</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-06-28 11:00</div><div class="msg">I'll arrive a bit late on the 4th unfortunately (noon), but I'm not in Berlin this weekend and need to make sure my mattress is delivered to my empty apartment next week. :sweat_smile:</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-07-31/220671542518_0d49983291e646e395f0_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">nastya</div><div class="time">2018-06-28 12:26</div><div class="msg">just make UPS buy you a new stuff @rachel!</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-07-31/220671542518_0d49983291e646e395f0_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">nastya</div><div class="time">2018-06-28 12:26</div><div class="msg">:sweat_smile:</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-06-28 13:15</div><div class="msg">The German post is having none of that!</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-06-28 13:43</div><div class="msg">I'm planning on going by train and arriving 9:00-9:30</div></div></div><br/>
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<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-10-03/448433513781_35b198abdf960e874693_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jarradhope</div><div class="time">2018-07-01 13:20</div><div class="msg">has joined #events-basel</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-07-01 13:21</div><div class="msg">hey folks. For the event this week, I wanted to confirm:
1. Is there a more finalised agenda than the one in the channel topic?
2. If there is prep/pre-reading to be done, it would be good to get that soon so folks have time.</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-07-02 09:42</div><div class="msg"><!here> What do you guys think about setting up a discuss thread about the event so the community/rest of Status can participate and follow the progress (we'd need to post progress by the end of each day)?</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-06/310412231971_aab33885aa55d16e4740_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">arnetheduck.slack</div><div class="time">2018-07-02 10:04</div><div class="msg">pre-reading topics: <a href="https://status-im.slack.com/archives/CBE4T9XGQ/p1530126879000469">https://status-im.slack.com/archives/CBE4T9XGQ/p1530126879000469</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-29/291837550193_7c75b6459537f373c8e1_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">igor680</div><div class="time">2018-07-02 10:04</div><div class="msg">I shared the book chapter in #security and there is also this presentation on the same topic I will talk about: <a href="https://www.owasp.org/images/3/3c/OWASP_Bucharest_2017_Antukh.pdf">https://www.owasp.org/images/3/3c/OWASP_Bucharest_2017_Antukh.pdf</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-07-02 11:52</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://discuss.status.im/t/chat-risk-management-product-principles-meetup-switzerland/163">https://discuss.status.im/t/chat-risk-management-product-principles-meetup-switzerland/163</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-06/310412231971_aab33885aa55d16e4740_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">arnetheduck.slack</div><div class="time">2018-07-02 12:06</div><div class="msg">Just saw this, might make more sense to move to editable hackmd, this agenda is already pretty out of date and will change more</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-07-02 12:08</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://hackmd.io/4ZMM88wURr6jF2f9nP3tPA#">https://hackmd.io/4ZMM88wURr6jF2f9nP3tPA#</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-07-24/217825278711_78582e61a53927136266_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">adamb</div><div class="time">2018-07-02 12:25</div><div class="msg">If anyone is traveling by plane, this may be a good read put in #security originally <a href="https://status-im.slack.com/archives/CA7AX3CKF/p1530292475000427">https://status-im.slack.com/archives/CA7AX3CKF/p1530292475000427</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-02 13:19</div><div class="msg">why ?</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-07-24/217825278711_78582e61a53927136266_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">adamb</div><div class="time">2018-07-02 13:24</div><div class="msg">By train as well :stuck_out_tongue:</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-06/310412231971_aab33885aa55d16e4740_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">arnetheduck.slack</div><div class="time">2018-07-02 19:10</div><div class="msg">cool - perhaps the original discuss post can be edited to link to the hackmd then, so that we don't get lost in agendas? love taking this public instead of hiding in slack</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-07-02 19:40</div><div class="msg">with hackmd, anyone can edit it though (even non-contributors), right?</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-06/310412231971_aab33885aa55d16e4740_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">arnetheduck.slack</div><div class="time">2018-07-02 19:41</div><div class="msg">sounds like a feature to me, specially if you set it to "freely" so it can be done without login.. the idea here is that there's an undo feature anyway, so optimize for the common case of lowering barrier for benign edits</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-07-02 21:33</div><div class="msg">How many people can fit in the room that we've booked for the sessions? Right now we're at ~19 people, (with 3-5 people still unconfirmed).</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-23/319521513136_d6db8eeb85a03cb7d705_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andreaf</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 08:02</div><div class="msg">has joined #events-basel</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-06/324554464353_18f48763243f656a4978_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">patrick771</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 08:36</div><div class="msg">So, just following up on a side conversation with Nabil. We have 11 confirmed for Basel in-person for 4-6. Plus, Nabil, Jarrad (4-5th only) and possibly Carl will join. We?ve added some extra seats to accommodate.
Location is Binningerstrasse 15 and the workspace is called Nookbox: <a href="https://www.nookbox.ch/">https://www.nookbox.ch/</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-06/324554464353_18f48763243f656a4978_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">patrick771</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 08:39</div><div class="msg">Also, looked like there was consensus from the group to start a little later tomorrow since some people will still be traveling into Basel in the morning. I propose 10:30. Sound good?</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-10-03/448433513781_35b198abdf960e874693_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jarradhope</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 08:48</div><div class="msg">I have Basel for 3-6th, I'll be in Berlin for 14-15th?</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-06/324554464353_18f48763243f656a4978_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">patrick771</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 08:51</div><div class="msg">Sorry, getting ahead of myself. 4th-6th.</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 10:12</div><div class="msg">You can find the latest agenda and meetup plan on HackMD: <a href="https://hackmd.io/4ZMM88wURr6jF2f9nP3tPA?view">https://hackmd.io/4ZMM88wURr6jF2f9nP3tPA?view</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-07-03 11:20</div><div class="msg">@pedro set the channel topic: Agenda: <a href="https://hackmd.io/4ZMM88wURr6jF2f9nP3tPA?view">https://hackmd.io/4ZMM88wURr6jF2f9nP3tPA?view</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 05:37</div><div class="msg">The place is closed :sweat_smile: </div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-06/324554464353_18f48763243f656a4978_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">patrick771</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 05:57</div><div class="msg">Hey, we're picking up the key at 9:30 if you would like to meet at Nookbox. Sorry about that. Would recommend finding a cafe/shop until then.</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 06:00</div><div class="msg">Np I went to the hotel</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 06:27</div><div class="msg">My train arrives at 9:04, I'll ping you @yenda in case you're around</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-06/310412231971_aab33885aa55d16e4740_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">arnetheduck.slack</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 06:36</div><div class="msg">Morning all! I missed a train connection, so now I feel pretty happy that I originally planned to arrive pretty early :slightly_smiling_face: will be there around 1045</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 07:18</div><div class="msg">You come at the Radisson ?</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 07:19</div><div class="msg">I'm staying there but check in only starts at 15, so I'm walking directly to the meeting place</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 07:23</div><div class="msg">I'll be in around 12:30-1. See you guys!</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 08:03</div><div class="msg">Some really solid, relevant, and fairly simple - but not easy to achieve in practice - threat and adversary capability modeling. Linked before I think but might inspire some discussion today: <a href="https://briarproject.org/how-it-works.html">https://briarproject.org/how-it-works.html</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-06/324554464353_18f48763243f656a4978_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">patrick771</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 08:04</div><div class="msg">Heads up. Go through these doors when you arrive at Binningstrasse 15. We're in the ground floor room just beyond the parked truck.</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 10:02</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://hackmd.io/fpqnTU4pRTKVqcUijrZwxg">https://hackmd.io/fpqnTU4pRTKVqcUijrZwxg</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 11:09</div><div class="msg">Dan Kaminsky (@dakami) Tweeted:
I'm increasingly thinking that every functioning system has two forms: The abstraction that outsiders are led to believe, and the reality that insiders actually and carefully operate.
You don't incrementally learn a system. You eventually unlearn its necessary lies. <a href="https://twitter.com/dakami/status/953444486209716225?s=17">https://twitter.com/dakami/status/953444486209716225?s=17</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-29/291837550193_7c75b6459537f373c8e1_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">igor680</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 12:52</div><div class="msg">Security champions playbook: <a href="https://github.com/c0rdis/security-champions-playbook">https://github.com/c0rdis/security-champions-playbook</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 13:15</div><div class="msg">detect screenshot possible on iOS too <a href="https://stackoverflow.com/questions/13484516/ios-detection-of-screenshot">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/13484516/ios-detection-of-screenshot</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 14:32</div><div class="msg">Hack week testing framework <a href="https://discuss.status.im/t/status-hack-week/153/14?u=yenda">https://discuss.status.im/t/status-hack-week/153/14?u=yenda</a>
Heartbeat protocol
<a href="https://github.com/status-im/ideas/pull/252">https://github.com/status-im/ideas/pull/252</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 15:11</div><div class="msg">It's been forgotten but at 9 in the agenda we have a jujitsu fight between @nastya and @arnetheduck.slack, @oskarth will be the judge.</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 15:17</div><div class="msg"><!here>: here's the voting doc with instructions, please fill out by 9 am tomorrow:)
<a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1o_sJKluskrlyNxAfDH_brqkFBsVWFFLLAdu8sUFEDdM/edit#gid=0">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1o_sJKluskrlyNxAfDH_brqkFBsVWFFLLAdu8sUFEDdM/edit#gid=0</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 15:41</div><div class="msg">FYI, there is a Mac charger in the room. Room will be locked, so you can find it there tomorrow:)</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-06/310412231971_aab33885aa55d16e4740_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">arnetheduck.slack</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 15:43</div><div class="msg">on mainframe, and how they spread their message of secure messaging and promote development of pss: <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/shermanlee/2018/07/03/the-champions-of-crypto-who-are-the-titans-driving-mainstream-adoption/#12f215175988">https://www.forbes.com/sites/shermanlee/2018/07/03/the-champions-of-crypto-who-are-the-titans-driving-mainstream-adoption/#12f215175988</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 17:34</div><div class="msg">Any group going for lunch?</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 17:35</div><div class="msg">I'm going downstairs, ready to join</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 17:36</div><div class="msg">I'm exploring the centre, happy to come join:)</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-07-24/217825278711_78582e61a53927136266_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">adamb</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 17:40</div><div class="msg">I will be in the lobby in 3 mins</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 17:40</div><div class="msg">Me in 5-10</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 17:42</div><div class="msg">Oooh coming</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 17:44</div><div class="msg">Me too</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 17:52</div><div class="msg">@hester Hattori? Japanese Sushi &amp; Steak. Steinentorstrasse 35, 4051 Basel, Switzerland</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 17:52</div><div class="msg">Very close to the Radisson</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 17:54</div><div class="msg">Sounds good... Although if I could sway you guys to walk to the river, even better;)</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-07-04 18:47</div><div class="msg">Where did you end up?</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-10-03/448433513781_35b198abdf960e874693_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jarradhope</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 08:54</div><div class="msg">``` Voluntaryanism (all forms of human association should be voluntary)
Coercion-Resistance
Honesty
Free Culture / Openness <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-culture_movement">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-culture_movement</a>
Freedom of Movement
Inclusivity (Social Inclusion &amp; Collaboration)
Freedom to communicate (transact)
Fair Access
Decentralization
'Trustlessness' / Being capable of independently verifying)
Security
PFS
i forget the others
Human Rights:
Right to liberty and Security
Right to Privacy ((pseudo)Anonymity)
Free Speech (Freedom of Expression)
Freedom of thought, belief and religion
Freedom of Assembly &amp; Association
Right to Property
<a href="https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/human-rights/human-rights-act">https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/human-rights/human-rights-act</a>
<a href="https://www.openrightsgroup.org/">https://www.openrightsgroup.org/</a>
<a href="https://burningman.org/culture/philosophical-center/10-principles/">https://burningman.org/culture/philosophical-center/10-principles/</a> ```</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-01-09/125597416918_4b7b095b4e695e7a8be1_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">carl</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 08:54</div><div class="msg">Some values I just typed up:
? *Open source* - Status? software will made available via a free and open source license.
? *Decentralization* - Status aims to be as decentralized as possible. We will minimize centralization across both the software and the organization. Our shortcomings (technological or otherwise) will be communicated honestly and transparently.
? *Right of Use* - _Everyone_ has the right to use Status? software, regardless of their background, location or opinions.
? *Freedom of Speech* - The software Status creates will protect freedom of speech without any form of censorship. Everyone shall have the right to this freedom through any communication medium Status provides. [How does this apply within the organization?]
? *Censorship resistance* - Status strives to create software that avoids suppression of all forms of information.
? *Transparency / Symmetry* - Availability of information between core and non-core contributors will be as symmetrical as possible. Proposed changes, and decisions that impact the software will be documented and public. We will be honest with our communication.
? *Security-first* - We will use best practices and aim to prevent unauthorized access and use of the software to the best of our abilities.
? *Individual liberty* - We aim to maximize social, political, and economic freedoms.
? *Agnosticism / Co-operation* - While Status is an Ethereum-first client, we will remain open minded to collaborating with other projects and using other protocols that possess desired properties.
? *Continuance* - We aim to create software that will continue to exist and improve without a a single entity or any of the existing team members.
^ Under what circumstances can trade-offs be made on the above? How can they be stated so it's clear when they?re breached or if the needle moves in the wrong direction?</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-10-03/448433513781_35b198abdf960e874693_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jarradhope</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 10:02</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://www.activism.net/cypherpunk/manifesto.html">https://www.activism.net/cypherpunk/manifesto.html</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 10:17</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yHtJ9pXNeZa4lpkGMCXu6G8ksGGAHAsn13YkUmB2KA4/edit">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yHtJ9pXNeZa4lpkGMCXu6G8ksGGAHAsn13YkUmB2KA4/edit</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 10:23</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RaI3XvcCD6QsnKtAGIV1Btch8gcXEotdNvY4FOR3Fto/edit#gid=0">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RaI3XvcCD6QsnKtAGIV1Btch8gcXEotdNvY4FOR3Fto/edit#gid=0</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 10:29</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://medium.com/@VitalikButerin/the-meaning-of-decentralization-a0c92b76a274">https://medium.com/@VitalikButerin/the-meaning-of-decentralization-a0c92b76a274</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-29/291837550193_7c75b6459537f373c8e1_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">igor680</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 13:32</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Risk_Rating_Methodology">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Risk_Rating_Methodology</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 14:45</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://github.com/ZcashFoundation/ZcashFoundation/blob/master/VALUES.md">https://github.com/ZcashFoundation/ZcashFoundation/blob/master/VALUES.md</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 14:47</div><div class="msg">Principles: <a href="https://hackmd.io/5jB9lWyIQpO8lG1cyLR8oA#">https://hackmd.io/5jB9lWyIQpO8lG1cyLR8oA#</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-07-24/217825278711_78582e61a53927136266_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">adamb</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 16:49</div><div class="msg">I started collecting action items here: <a href="https://hackmd.io/2JZfdWjcT3CGVGDmJiIZyg">https://hackmd.io/2JZfdWjcT3CGVGDmJiIZyg</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 17:23</div><div class="msg">Dinner ?</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 17:27</div><div class="msg">Yes:) And for anyone who wants to sit back and stare at a screen for some time, while subconsciously being fed a new perspective:
@philipwu is running UX test sessions today. Sessions start at 19:30 and at 10:30. You can watch them here: <a href="https://lookback.io/watch/6ig4TXDwqniWrN8j2">https://lookback.io/watch/6ig4TXDwqniWrN8j2</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 17:32</div><div class="msg">I'm in the lobby</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 17:41</div><div class="msg">Going downstairs</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 17:45</div><div class="msg">Where did you end up going @hester? </div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 17:51</div><div class="msg"><!here> anyone else wants to joint for dinner ?</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 17:51</div><div class="msg">nowhere yet, I'm at Metropol hotel, but can meet you guys somewhere</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-01-09/125597416918_4b7b095b4e695e7a8be1_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">carl</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 17:58</div><div class="msg">@yenda whereabouts are you eating?</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 18:02</div><div class="msg">I ended up walking towards the old part of town (not far away), looks like there are many nice places to grab a bite</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 18:03</div><div class="msg">yeeh, old town! can you share a place once you've found one?I'll head into that direction</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 18:03</div><div class="msg">I'm still in the lobby</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 18:05</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-d8280352?m=19905">https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-d8280352?m=19905</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-01-09/125597416918_4b7b095b4e695e7a8be1_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">carl</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 18:07</div><div class="msg">Great, @yenda and I can meet you there in 10</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 18:10</div><div class="msg">I'll join too, just took a nap bath</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 18:11</div><div class="msg">Cool, I'll get a table. It's in an inner courtyard</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 18:12</div><div class="msg">On my way</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-05 18:12</div><div class="msg">I'll join too</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-10-03/448433513781_35b198abdf960e874693_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jarradhope</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 06:16</div><div class="msg">Really awesome event guys, I do feel that a perspective was underrepresented that maybe @naghdy @chad @jonny.z @kim196 hold and I think an open dialogue and knowledge sharing by as many people as possible is necessary</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-09-12/240066984213_b35ca6f6b9658bf5cabb_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jonny.z</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 06:16</div><div class="msg">has joined #events-basel</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-08-23/422058362675_dc3e307b6e9052d90b4c_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">kim196</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 06:16</div><div class="msg">has joined #events-basel</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-10-03/448433513781_35b198abdf960e874693_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jarradhope</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 06:17</div><div class="msg">@carl , @rachel and @oskarth are the most obvious bridges</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-10-03/448433513781_35b198abdf960e874693_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jarradhope</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 06:18</div><div class="msg">Also as per @yenda idea, the stuff we're talking about here needs to be spread out to the rest of organisation I'd highly recommend everyone does a one on one with someone else in org</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 10:46</div><div class="msg">Lunch? </div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 11:55</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://discuss.status.im/t/principles-from-basel/175">https://discuss.status.im/t/principles-from-basel/175</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 11:58</div><div class="msg">@pedro we?ll head back now</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 11:59</div><div class="msg">Sure, I'll be there in a few minutes</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-29/291837550193_7c75b6459537f373c8e1_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">igor680</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 13:05</div><div class="msg">First draft of the Security Process Experiment: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/18BGBtMPXD76hOwEUKudon-4DGUJi1oMvptRLRl9kWs4">https://docs.google.com/document/d/18BGBtMPXD76hOwEUKudon-4DGUJi1oMvptRLRl9kWs4</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-29/291837550193_7c75b6459537f373c8e1_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">igor680</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 13:09</div><div class="msg">I'll need to revisit this draft, maybe after vacation. But there are the first steps.
If anyone wants to oversee this experiment while I'm away ? you are welcome. If not ? I can get back to it as soon as I'm back from my vacation. </div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 13:15</div><div class="msg">Can you make it public for everyone please?</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 13:16</div><div class="msg">Agree, I'll follow up on this when I get back from vacation</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-29/291837550193_7c75b6459537f373c8e1_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">igor680</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 13:38</div><div class="msg">You mean for everyone at all or everyone at Status?
I was thinking after the initial feedback to put it on Discuss</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 13:40</div><div class="msg">All google docs should at least be viewable by everyone unless it contains very confidential info </div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 13:42</div><div class="msg">Draft of principles process &amp; outcomes: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/11zZN12dScKPdGMq8R_20xv0FJSDHZxvO0DWaisyvcx0/edit#">https://docs.google.com/document/d/11zZN12dScKPdGMq8R_20xv0FJSDHZxvO0DWaisyvcx0/edit#</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-10-03/448433513781_35b198abdf960e874693_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jarradhope</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 13:50</div><div class="msg">How are things going today?</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-10-03/448433513781_35b198abdf960e874693_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jarradhope</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 13:50</div><div class="msg">What did I miss??</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 14:11</div><div class="msg">Secure messaging discussions, a Security process plan, review of the `Wall of shame` with the (Organizational) Principles to verify their urgency</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-29/291837550193_7c75b6459537f373c8e1_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">igor680</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 14:18</div><div class="msg">I still didn't find a way to do it viewable to everyone but commendable to Status</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-29/291837550193_7c75b6459537f373c8e1_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">igor680</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 14:18</div><div class="msg">Oh, it also doesn't have advanced sharing in iOS version...</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-10-03/448433513781_35b198abdf960e874693_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jarradhope</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 14:19</div><div class="msg">Great, where can I find this?</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 14:19</div><div class="msg">You can by sharing settings </div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 14:19</div><div class="msg">Anyone with a link can view </div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 14:20</div><div class="msg">But yeah maybe not on iOS</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 14:20</div><div class="msg">IIRC it acts like file permissions in Unix, so you can apply multiple rules to same url </div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 14:20</div><div class="msg">More like a bitmask </div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-06/324554464353_18f48763243f656a4978_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">patrick771</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 14:33</div><div class="msg">Here is the security process outcomes: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/18BGBtMPXD76hOwEUKudon-4DGUJi1oMvptRLRl9kWs4/edit">https://docs.google.com/document/d/18BGBtMPXD76hOwEUKudon-4DGUJi1oMvptRLRl9kWs4/edit</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-29/291837550193_7c75b6459537f373c8e1_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">igor680</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 17:10</div><div class="msg">Yeah. It looks like they have broken permissions there. Anyway, I was planning to make it an idea when I?m back and start a swarm on it. </div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 18:08</div><div class="msg">kudos to @hester and @patrick771 for their hard work hosting us in Basel! :heart:
Thanks Hester for doing a great job keeping discussions on track!</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-07-06 19:35</div><div class="msg">With pleasure:) It was great to meet you all! Writing up a list of our output; kudos to you all for being so involved and productive.
You can find this list in a draft of a Recap/blogpost. Please leave a comment if I missed anything!
<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/139FuI3ZuIlMnhQGcxXx9tMXdEra1juweYpLcJouDuMI/edit?usp=sharing">https://docs.google.com/document/d/139FuI3ZuIlMnhQGcxXx9tMXdEra1juweYpLcJouDuMI/edit?usp=sharing</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-10-03/448433513781_35b198abdf960e874693_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jarradhope</div><div class="time">2018-07-07 08:48</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://status-im.slack.com/archives/C5Z5NRYKS/p1530953289000042">https://status-im.slack.com/archives/C5Z5NRYKS/p1530953289000042</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-07 11:25</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeGF7PDKYFw">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeGF7PDKYFw</a> seems to have been cut off in the beginning, was there a problem with the stream?</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fcc4675bd0ade27de9baefb82098e500.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F66f9%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0002-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">yenda</div><div class="time">2018-07-09 07:53</div><div class="msg">Anybody started to create GHI based on <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1o_sJKluskrlyNxAfDH_brqkFBsVWFFLLAdu8sUFEDdM/edit#gid=45783428">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1o_sJKluskrlyNxAfDH_brqkFBsVWFFLLAdu8sUFEDdM/edit#gid=45783428</a> ?</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-07-09 09:15</div><div class="msg">I'll create Git hub issues today for the solutions that came out of threat modeling for `20. - store seed phrase in db, don't encrypt with additional pw`.
I suspect that also for the other topics on the Wall of Shame, multiple threats come out of threat modelling with each their own solution that we can create Git hub issues for. Until we have done this threat modelling, do you see a way to create _overall_ Git hub issues that we can branch of after threat modeling?</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-10-03/448433513781_35b198abdf960e874693_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jarradhope</div><div class="time">2018-07-09 10:15</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://status-im.slack.com/archives/C846J9HTJ/p1531076297000013">https://status-im.slack.com/archives/C846J9HTJ/p1531076297000013</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-09/311993097408_4a03c687a383ac3bfb71_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">stefania</div><div class="time">2018-07-09 10:39</div><div class="msg">has joined #events-basel</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-07-09 11:05</div><div class="msg">@andreap @arnetheduck.slack @patrick771 how does the issue we discussed about establishing initial contact between 2 users relate to the Wall of Shame? Is it related to `25. - no perfect forward secrecy`, `19. - easy to impersonate people` (due to the public key being exposed? Both, or another issue? Seems important to get right, I'm trying to figure out exactly where it fits on the prioritized Wall of Shame:)</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/4f643ff2e520e1b103a3c81fe6d4267c.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F3654%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0023-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andreap</div><div class="time">2018-07-09 11:09</div><div class="msg">It's related possibly to both, but we were mainly discussing `25`, impersonating people might also involve some discussion about `authentication` (which is basically what we were discussing), but calls for different solutions.</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-07-09 12:01</div><div class="msg">:+1: got it, thanks @andreap</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-07-09 12:20</div><div class="msg">Looping in @maciej and @andmironov.Given the complexity of this problem it'll probably need a structured design process to identify use cases, requirements and potential solutions.</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-07-09 13:08</div><div class="msg">cc @chad</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-07-09 16:36</div><div class="msg">*Wall of Shame*
Following up from last week, who would like to own our Wall of Shame [WoS]? This is a very important doc, that would require:
1. Adding context to what each item is (e.g. links, add a sentence or two about why its bad)
2. Regularly updating the WoS with new compromises or improvement.
3. Tracking GH issues (or similar) when a WoS item is being worked on.
Thoughts/volunteers?</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-10-03/448433513781_35b198abdf960e874693_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jarradhope</div><div class="time">2018-07-09 17:00</div><div class="msg">I can commit to 1. tomorrow, no interest in 2 or 3</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-02-06/310412231971_aab33885aa55d16e4740_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">arnetheduck.slack</div><div class="time">2018-07-09 17:11</div><div class="msg">notes from basel intro (not much useful in there though, unfortunately): <a href="https://hackmd.io/O4mDIVhkTcG_sQVX-a4VhA">https://hackmd.io/O4mDIVhkTcG_sQVX-a4VhA</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-07-09 21:50</div><div class="msg">For the issues on Wall of Shame, the initial idea was to create a swarm to further analyse this 'backlog' and create issues.
This would be step 4.2 in @igor680's doc on a security process. This would however only kick-off when he gets back from vacation.</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 07:20</div><div class="msg">For ongoing management?can security champions or PMs for each team own it collaboratively? I can do my part for DApp and developer tools.</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-10-03/448433513781_35b198abdf960e874693_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jarradhope</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:00</div><div class="msg">To discourage spam we can do a simple staking system similar to tribute to talk, except the money is left on the table</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-10-03/448433513781_35b198abdf960e874693_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jarradhope</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:00</div><div class="msg">This can be applied to mailservers and public chats</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-10-03/448433513781_35b198abdf960e874693_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jarradhope</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:02</div><div class="msg">IE I put $10 on the table so you will listen to what I have to say, you can pick it up at anytime, but I trust you not to unless I say something that insults you</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-10-03/448433513781_35b198abdf960e874693_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jarradhope</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:02</div><div class="msg">You could also pickup 50cents of that $10 as a warningor as services rendered</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 08:28</div><div class="msg">A virtual 'insult jar', I like it!</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-10-03/448433513781_35b198abdf960e874693_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jarradhope</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 14:27</div><div class="msg">Also see <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17s7cMJ61-oYuyiz8cByWH7naZH10FXT3XgrpI-3cBUM/edit#gid=0">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17s7cMJ61-oYuyiz8cByWH7naZH10FXT3XgrpI-3cBUM/edit#gid=0</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-10-03/448433513781_35b198abdf960e874693_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jarradhope</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 14:27</div><div class="msg">@andrey is comparing us to other messengers based on the grid checklist</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-10-03/448433513781_35b198abdf960e874693_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jarradhope</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 14:29</div><div class="msg">I've done dark red for the misconceptions</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-01-10/297564958950_752f7f4865590f38fffc_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">pedro</div><div class="time">2018-07-10 16:14</div><div class="msg">This is a very useful document, glad to see we have it now! I had started building my own, but this one goes much more in-depth</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-07-24/217825278711_78582e61a53927136266_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">adamb</div><div class="time">2018-07-11 07:15</div><div class="msg">I also collected some notes from discussion about Secure Messaging from the last day <a href="https://hackmd.io/YHjfG5WLTSGwPeS4rDNUvw">https://hackmd.io/YHjfG5WLTSGwPeS4rDNUvw</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-10-03/448433513781_35b198abdf960e874693_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jarradhope</div><div class="time">2018-07-11 09:54</div><div class="msg">this is an interesting thread on briar <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14825019">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14825019</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-10-03/448433513781_35b198abdf960e874693_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jarradhope</div><div class="time">2018-07-11 09:55</div><div class="msg">&gt; It's ironic that this update plays up how Briar "hides metadata" when the audit found that the application deanonymizes its users by exposing DNS lookups during RSS updates</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-10-03/448433513781_35b198abdf960e874693_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jarradhope</div><div class="time">2018-07-11 09:55</div><div class="msg">&gt; Maybe because tox is developed by people who don't know what they're doing.
&gt; Money quote from a tox dev: "Tox provides some strong security guarantees. We haven't got to the point where we can enumerate them properly, given the general lack of understanding of the code and specification."
<a href="https://github.com/TokTok/c-toxcore/issues/426">https://github.com/TokTok/c-toxcore/issues/426</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-10-03/448433513781_35b198abdf960e874693_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jarradhope</div><div class="time">2018-07-11 09:56</div><div class="msg">Briar also has a bunch of specifications
<a href="https://code.briarproject.org/briar/briar-spec/blob/master/protocols/BTP.md">https://code.briarproject.org/briar/briar-spec/blob/master/protocols/BTP.md</a>
<a href="https://code.briarproject.org/briar/briar-spec/blob/master/protocols/BQP.md">https://code.briarproject.org/briar/briar-spec/blob/master/protocols/BQP.md</a>
<a href="https://code.briarproject.org/briar/briar-spec/blob/master/protocols/BSP.md">https://code.briarproject.org/briar/briar-spec/blob/master/protocols/BSP.md</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-07-11 10:38</div><div class="msg">:frowning: we're lucky it's our communications that need to be more technical, and not our developers</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-10-03/448433513781_35b198abdf960e874693_72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jarradhope</div><div class="time">2018-07-11 10:50</div><div class="msg">:slightly_smiling_face: we can be better everywhere</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-07-17 19:37</div><div class="msg">Follow up to the Principles discussion and Discuss post: <a href="https://status-im.slack.com/archives/CAXU30F7F/p1531734621000081">https://status-im.slack.com/archives/CAXU30F7F/p1531734621000081</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-07-20 07:09</div><div class="msg">Hey folks. I've cleaned up and expanded our public Wall of Shame document. Can everyone please provide a quick lgtm (otherwise feel free to edit).</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-07-20 07:09</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://hackmd.io/fpqnTU4pRTKVqcUijrZwxg?view">https://hackmd.io/fpqnTU4pRTKVqcUijrZwxg?view</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-07-20 07:10</div><div class="msg">*Next Steps*
1. We share the document in #general, ensuring that people are aware of our flaws and raise awareness to tackle them in the coming months/quarter
2. Share on social channels</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-07-24/217825278711_78582e61a53927136266_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">adamb</div><div class="time">2018-07-20 08:52</div><div class="msg">&gt; 1. Seedphrase stored in database
I think we should mention that the database is encrypted.
&gt; 23. Devp2p encryption broken
Should we explain this that it's a problem of the whole geth stack?
&gt; 26. Transactions are public
Similarly here, sort of ?feature? of Ethereum.</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-07-20 08:53</div><div class="msg">Awesome</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-07-20 08:54</div><div class="msg">Thanks for cleaning up! Much more readable.
Want to verify here before updating:
`An attacker who gets access to our database could see users? seedphrases. `... ADDITION `as it's stored until the user has backed it up`. @andreap @goranjovic correct?
22. renamed passphrase to seedphrase.</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-03-13/329132457109_199841cd908ca7faa97f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">rachel</div><div class="time">2018-07-20 08:54</div><div class="msg">@adamb please go for it if you have edits or corrections!</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/4f643ff2e520e1b103a3c81fe6d4267c.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F3654%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0023-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andreap</div><div class="time">2018-07-20 09:02</div><div class="msg">not quite, the passphrase is not in clear text, so the attacker would need 1) the database 2) the encryption key (stored in the keychain). If they get hold of both they can decrypt all the passphrases for each user ( provided they did not backed them up, in that case they are removed)</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-07-20 09:13</div><div class="msg">Is that one and the same encryption key for all users or a separate encryption key for each user?</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/4f643ff2e520e1b103a3c81fe6d4267c.jpg?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fa.slack-edge.com%2F3654%2Fimg%2Favatars%2Fava_0023-72.png" /><div class="message"><div class="username">andreap</div><div class="time">2018-07-20 09:14</div><div class="msg">yes</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-07-20 09:22</div><div class="msg">So that makes: `An attacker who gets access to our database and our encryption key can decrypt all passphrases for each user, that has not backed up their passphrase yet. (in which case the passphrase is no longer stored in our database)`</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-09-12/240066984213_b35ca6f6b9658bf5cabb_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">jonny.z</div><div class="time">2018-07-20 11:28</div><div class="msg">cc @hutch @kim196 @shawn678</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-07-20 11:55</div><div class="msg">Have those updates been made to HackMD?</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-07-20 12:16</div><div class="msg">just now</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 11:34</div><div class="msg">Next up, our Principles: <a href="https://hackmd.io/5jB9lWyIQpO8lG1cyLR8oA?both">https://hackmd.io/5jB9lWyIQpO8lG1cyLR8oA?both</a>.
This has now been updated to include the examples from the post-its. Any thoughts on the content before we make a move to publish?</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-06-01/375000796951_78d872be972af4441b52_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">exiledsurfer</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 12:06</div><div class="msg">@naghdy i've created a draft post for our.status to be published by the "Us" user, with twitter, fb, and SEO cards / metadata, which you can preview once you have accepted the account invitation which was sent out today.</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 12:12</div><div class="msg">I was thinking to leave this in HackMD, just so that its continously editable</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-06-01/375000796951_78d872be972af4441b52_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">exiledsurfer</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 12:12</div><div class="msg">ghost is also markup</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-06-01/375000796951_78d872be972af4441b52_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">exiledsurfer</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 12:13</div><div class="msg">can copy / paste from hackMD once it's finalized.</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-06-01/375000796951_78d872be972af4441b52_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">exiledsurfer</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 12:14</div><div class="msg">i did it more to motivate you to set up your blog profile :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 12:14</div><div class="msg">Sweet. I'm not sure when it will be `finalized`, and I was hoping that it remains a living document</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 12:14</div><div class="msg">haha. im trying to get more engaged on twitter first, then will move to my own blog.</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-06-01/375000796951_78d872be972af4441b52_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">exiledsurfer</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 12:15</div><div class="msg">however you like :slightly_smiling_face: please set up your account tho</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 12:24</div><div class="msg">Looks good and again, thanks for cleaning up @naghdy!
If anything, how about a line in the intro to frame it as a live doc? Something like:
&gt;Status is community driven. Our community evolves and our principles need to reflect this. Hence, this is a live doc and not set in stone.</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-06-01/375000796951_78d872be972af4441b52_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">exiledsurfer</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 12:32</div><div class="msg">@hester just sent out your blog invite as well, btw :slightly_smiling_face:</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:15</div><div class="msg">@naghdy in what form would you like feedback?</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:15</div><div class="msg">Either here, or preferably just make changes inline (unless its something major, then maybe in discuss?)</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:42</div><div class="msg">I left a bunch of comments in-line</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 14:58</div><div class="msg">More generally, two things I'd like to see are:
1. Critical feedback on the specific formulations we have in each principle (the meat part) - it should be clear from reading just that what failure looks like and what it means.
2. Once above is done, it should be in such a stage that all core contributors will literally (cryptographically?) sign to uphold it. If people don't, for whatever reason, then we still have work to do in 1, most likely.</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 15:01</div><div class="msg">I'd be happy to work on above, but would need a bit of time</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 15:08</div><div class="msg">Where do we capture the urgency of fixing each issue? IIRC we had some kind of scoring, from "block release" to "fix in a few years", but can't find it right now. Would be useful if this was captured in this doc</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-05-21/367025375940_c77cc650cdbe3bf5be5f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">ceri</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 15:14</div><div class="msg">Hi <!channel>!
@stefania @naghdy and I were discussing that there?s a goldmine of info about values and principles that came out of the Basel event.
We thought it would be great if folks who were at Basel could hold a mini Town Hall with a small group of other core contributors (1-5 people) to share the knowledge that came out of the event.
What do you think? :slightly_smiling_face:
If you?d be happy to participate, a quick way of setting this up would be for each Basel participant who wants to take part to give their preferred time/date to host a session in this Google sheet (plus create a meeting link/invite), and I could ping in #general to invite folks to sign up.
(I pulled the list of participants from the draft agenda, apologies if it's not 100% accurate!)
<a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1neA2NaquoWBGVCoI4UvC4ohomhCvZVsWEGYOCoKtnGo/edit#gid=0">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1neA2NaquoWBGVCoI4UvC4ohomhCvZVsWEGYOCoKtnGo/edit#gid=0</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 15:17</div><div class="msg">great initiative! was on my todo list for things to do after vacation, and now there's a form for it :slightly_smiling_face: signed up</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-06-01/375000796951_78d872be972af4441b52_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">exiledsurfer</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 15:19</div><div class="msg">if i remember correctly, it was livestreamed; are those sessions online somewhere on livepeer?</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-05-21/367025375940_c77cc650cdbe3bf5be5f_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">ceri</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 15:24</div><div class="msg">iirc they were indeed :slightly_smiling_face:
this would be a chance for people to get the quick download, and have a chat about the principles/ask questions in a small group. We figured these principles are pretty foundational to what we're doing, so if everyone has the chance to get briefed in person, this will help embed the knowledge</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-10-04/251566892466_e37667e6064fe542e7d7_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">naghdy</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 15:53</div><div class="msg">The scoring was a 0 to 5 score: <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1o_sJKluskrlyNxAfDH_brqkFBsVWFFLLAdu8sUFEDdM/edit?usp=drive_web&amp;ouid=113915347407654529536">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1o_sJKluskrlyNxAfDH_brqkFBsVWFFLLAdu8sUFEDdM/edit?usp=drive_web&amp;ouid=113915347407654529536</a>. If there is something missing, then please add</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-23 15:56</div><div class="msg">cheers, will think about what the best way of making sure it is useful and somewhat live is</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-06-01/375000796951_78d872be972af4441b52_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">exiledsurfer</div><div class="time">2018-07-24 08:09</div><div class="msg">A great mission &amp; values statement from Ocean Protocol:
<a href="https://blog.oceanprotocol.com/mission-values-for-ocean-protocol-aba998e95b8">https://blog.oceanprotocol.com/mission-values-for-ocean-protocol-aba998e95b8</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-24 16:48</div><div class="msg">hm, no interest so far, probably since it wasn't advertised. Postponing my time until next week</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-25 10:50</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://status-im.slack.com/archives/CAYMQNSAV/p1532515795000035">https://status-im.slack.com/archives/CAYMQNSAV/p1532515795000035</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-12/285244060371_dbc007c8c7963b36a3ee_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">hester</div><div class="time">2018-07-25 11:17</div><div class="msg">Not a deal-breaker, but the description of censorship resistance doesn't ring well for me.
&gt; Censorship resistance
&gt; We aim to avoid the suppression of information. No content is under surveillance. One of the design goals of Ethereum is to be censorship resistant, and we should provide the same guarantees across Status.
Alternative:
&gt; We aim for a free flow of information. No content is under surveillance. One of the design goals of Ethereum is to be censorship resistant, and we should provide the same guarantees across Status.</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-25 11:18</div><div class="msg">better, agree!</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-06-01/375000796951_78d872be972af4441b52_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">exiledsurfer</div><div class="time">2018-07-25 21:04</div><div class="msg">re: our "wall of shame" :
<a href="https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/facebook-alex-stamos-memo-cambridge-analytica-pick-sides">https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/facebook-alex-stamos-memo-cambridge-analytica-pick-sides</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-06-01/375000796951_78d872be972af4441b52_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">exiledsurfer</div><div class="time">2018-07-25 21:54</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://twitter.com/exiledsurfer/status/1022237916519702541?s=21">https://twitter.com/exiledsurfer/status/1022237916519702541?s=21</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-06-01/375000796951_78d872be972af4441b52_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">exiledsurfer</div><div class="time">2018-07-25 21:55</div><div class="msg">aragon is having the same discussion about companies staking their tokens against their mission statement, even curated registries of manifestos.</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2018-06-01/375000796951_78d872be972af4441b52_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">exiledsurfer</div><div class="time">2018-07-25 21:57</div><div class="msg">i like oskars suggestion about individuals signing a commitment to our pronciples on chain</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-07-26 09:18</div><div class="msg"><a href="https://status-im.slack.com/archives/C5Z5NRYKS/p1532596672000310">https://status-im.slack.com/archives/C5Z5NRYKS/p1532596672000310</a></div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-08-13 09:10</div><div class="msg">Archive this channel?</div></div></div><br/>
<div><img src="https://avatars.slack-edge.com/2017-12-19/289021559940_764a5c704a5a99098d7a_72.jpg" /><div class="message"><div class="username">oskarth</div><div class="time">2018-08-13 12:48</div><div class="msg">@oskarth archived the channel</div></div></div><br/>
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