diff --git a/src/spiffworkflow_backend/services/logging_service.py b/src/spiffworkflow_backend/services/logging_service.py
index 94a14da3..9d98119e 100644
--- a/src/spiffworkflow_backend/services/logging_service.py
+++ b/src/spiffworkflow_backend/services/logging_service.py
@@ -1,6 +1,7 @@
 """Logging_service."""
 import json
 import logging
+import re
 from typing import Any
 from typing import Optional
 
@@ -113,6 +114,8 @@ def setup_logger(app: Flask) -> None:
         "%(asctime)s - %(name)s - %(levelname)s - %(message)s"
     )
 
+    app.logger.debug("Printing log to create app logger")
+
     # the json formatter is nice for real environments but makes
     # debugging locally a little more difficult
     if app.env != "development":
@@ -140,7 +143,8 @@ def setup_logger(app: Flask) -> None:
 
     # make all loggers act the same
     for name in logging.root.manager.loggerDict:
-        if "spiff" not in name:
+        # use a regex so spiffworkflow_backend isn't filtered out
+        if not re.match(r"^spiff\b", name):
             the_logger = logging.getLogger(name)
             the_logger.setLevel(log_level)
             if spiff_logger_filehandler:
diff --git a/src/spiffworkflow_backend/services/secret_service.py b/src/spiffworkflow_backend/services/secret_service.py
index de215a1c..06fedaa3 100644
--- a/src/spiffworkflow_backend/services/secret_service.py
+++ b/src/spiffworkflow_backend/services/secret_service.py
@@ -1,6 +1,7 @@
 """Secret_service."""
 from typing import Optional
 
+from flask import current_app
 from flask_bpmn.api.api_error import ApiError
 from flask_bpmn.models.db import db
 from sqlalchemy.exc import IntegrityError
@@ -46,11 +47,14 @@ class SecretService:
         try:
             db.session.commit()
         except Exception as e:
-            raise ApiError(
+            ae = ApiError(
                 code="create_secret_error",
                 message=f"There was an error creating a secret with key: {key} and value ending with: {value[:-4]}. "
                 f"Original error is {e}",
-            ) from e
+            )
+            # log the error so we can see what postgres is doing
+            current_app.logger.error(ae)
+            raise ae from e
         return secret_model
 
     @staticmethod